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[–] bhmnscmm 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really impressive how Alonso is still holding onto 3rd. I don't think he'll be able to keep ahead of Hamilton though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agree with you.
It also shows how massive the gap between Lance and Fernando really is.

Happy to see Lando there though. Would be awesome to see him in a more competative car.

[–] krische 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And to think Stroll's contract was just renewed

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I am shocked. Shocked, I tell you!

[–] krische 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the earliest a driver has ever clinched the title?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In 2002 Michael Schumacher won the WDC with 6 races remaining.

Mind you that there were were only 17 races in total that season, so he took it just before two thirds of the season was done.

This season will have 22 races (excluding the cancelled ones), and two thirds of that is 14.7 races. Since the next race will be number 15, he will not be able to break that in terms of relative progress in the season. He also cannot beat the 6 races, because to do it with 7 races left he would have to become WDC in Singapore, which is mathematically not possible. He can (theoretically) do it in Japan, so he can still equal that record, albeit with more races in a season...

[–] Prof_Eibe 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In 2002 there was still the old point system. Maybe that would change your calculation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It does, but in the opposite direction. 139 for VER and 102 for PER, at least if my calculations are correct, with 8 more races to go.

Edit: to clarify: this would be the current standing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Max can wrap it up after Singapore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There will be seven races to go, including 3 sprintraces.

7 races including fastest lap is: 7 * (25 + 1) = 182 points

3 sprintraces is 3 * 8 = 24 points.

That means he would have to lead by 206 points. He is now 145 points ahead, so no, Singapore is mathematically not possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OK. The the race after. If he wins Singapore, then Japan, he'll be at least 197 points ahead of Perez with 180 possible winning points for the rest of the year.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not to sound too pessimistic, but that means he will have to extend his lead by 35 points (to get to 180). That means winning both races while Perez finishes 6th or lower. Perez isn't amazing but 2 races 6th or lower is also not realistic.

Also: 180 points is just the regular races and the fastest lap. There are also 3 sprintraces to go, that is another 24 points, so he would have to lead by 204 points after Japan.

Edit: you are correct on the 180 points. I added the sprint-races double somehow. The conclusion doesn't change though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If max wins Singapore and Japan he is WDC. It doesn't matter where Perez finishes. There are not enough points left in the season for him to win the WDC.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I really don't think so. After Singapore and Japan, there are 6 more races to go (Qatar, Texas, Mexico, Brazil, Las Vegas and Abu Dhabi). That is 6*(25+1)=156 points.

There are also 3 sprintraces left, that is another 3*8=24 points, so that means that Max needs a gap of at least 180 points to pull that off.

A win gives 7 points advantage to second place, if he is unlucky 6 (Perez gets fastest lap). He is currently 145 points ahead. If he extends his lead with 2*7=14 points in those races, he has a lead of 159 points with 180 points still up for grabs, so not WDC just yet.