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Dairy milk uses up way more water than people realize (i.imgur.com)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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For some numbers:

One graph even has California's animal feed water usage so large it actually goes off the chart at 15.2 million acre-feet of water (it is distorted to make it fit as it notes). For some comparison, the blue water usage of animal feed is larger than all of almonds water usage of ~2 million acre-feet of water

https://pacinst.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/ca_ftprint_full_report3.pdf#page=25

EDIT:

If the image isn't loading for you, here's a direct link: https://i.imgur.com/EjVps9Z.png

EDIT 2:

Also worth noting is that per liter, dairy milk requires 628.2 L of freshwater vs almond milk requiring 371.46 L of freshwater. And if you use something like oat milk instead that gets you to 48.24 L

https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impact-milks

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It undeniably does, but what would be interesting is a comparison of how much water is needed per liter of milk and various substitutes.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Per liter, dairy milk requires 628.2 L of freshwater vs almond milk requiring 371.46 L of freshwater. And if you use something like oat milk instead that gets you to 48.24 L

https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impact-milks

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@usernamesAreTricky @vegivamp Oat milk is 🔥 .

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For sure, oat milk is personally my favorite too

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Same and this is making me even happier to be drinking it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Love using oat milk for porridge. Double oat, so oaty.

[–] Dick_Justice 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've switched entirely to oat milk. I don't understand how it's so creamy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of all the non-dairy milks I've tried, oat is the most palatable to me. Still distinctly prefer cow, though. But then i grew up on the fresh stuff, not the watery crap from the supermarket.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I make my own oat milk. Costs literal cents to make and you can modify it for you tastes

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I suppose I should have guessed how much more resource-intensive dairy milk is just because it involves animals, but holy crap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I still like Soy milk the best. It's tried and true, and uses less water than Oat. Sadly, the emissions are a bit higher...

But a benefit is that in making soy milk, you have the setup to make tofu, which is lovely as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Soy milk gang!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Drinking coffee with soy milk in it right now.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Meme with a credible source? This is they way (and thank you)!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Incredibly based, fuck the dairy industry.

[–] Dick_Justice 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So true. And as a sidenote, it's so pathetic when the (usual suspects) bust out with their tired whataboutisms and dont put just the tiniest bit of effort into researching it, even a little, to see if it's true. Heaven forbid they might have to actually change their stances under the constant flow of contradictory evidence to the bullshittery they peddle.

[–] query 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Animal feed is a huge category, vs. almonds. Almonds registering on that scale is what's so shocking about it.

Edit: Not that it isn't wasteful, if you need extra feed besides grazing, you're in trouble ecologically.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The water usage per liter of dairy milk is also higher. Per liter, dairy milk requires 628.2 L of freshwater vs almond milk requiring 371.46 L of freshwater. And if you use something like oat milk instead that gets you to 48.24 L.

https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impact-milks

Keep in mind here that 80% of the entire world's almonds are grown in California, so it's not surprising its a decent large user by size. Even despite that, just the mostly US demand for animal feed dwarfs water usage in California

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almonds_in_California

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This is the mode important metric, thanks for including it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi, it's me, the average person, How is this a problem?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Record droughts

The end of the entire human race due to climate change

Before that, climate change destroying your house or access to food

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If I promise to switch to oat milk, can I keep the cheese?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean any switch is doing something. People who try to switch everything completely all at once end up failing a lot because it's overwhelming.

There are some good almond and cashew cheeses though, and now they can make non animal whey that is chemically equivalent to dairy whey... So identical cheese is coming. They already have identical non animal cream cheese and ice cream

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah I'm not sure what I can do about milk/cheese. We've actually been mostly beef & pork free (from grocery) for several years, replacing with poultry, beans, and some fish.

but milk? man that's tough. we have kids, and we go through a lot of milk. oat milk would be expensive as a 1:1 replacer. small steps!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you don't do any meatless meals I highly recommend it for saving money. Our grocery bill would be insane right now if we ate as much meat as we used to. My go to is stir fry with an egg on top or a soup/stew. Dont even miss the meat cause it's so flavorful even without it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This isn't a meme

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Here's a direct link to the image if it isn't loading for you

https://imgur.io/EjVps9Z?r

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@usernamesAreTricky not a meme

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@usernamesAreTricky if this image was included in the OP it didn't show on my instance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It is just a standard imgur link

https://i.imgur.com/EjVps9Z.png

Works for me on lemmy.ml

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@Catsrules glad to hear it. All the other posts in this forum show the embedded image, not sure why this one didn't. I'll file an issue on the github.com/friendica/friendica

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm I've had other people say they couldn't see my posts when I used imgur though I think usually people can see that there was an image (just that it didn't load). Maybe will stop using imgur for post then I suppose

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The image doesn't preview, on kbin.social, for me. But clicking the title when in the comments will take me to the imgur page. Kind of inconvenient, but ultimately accessible.

[–] Katana314 3 points 1 year ago

Memes about Reddit, the Titanic sub, and other common things to lampshade all take up a humorous political stance. This is a very "Keep racial politics out of my X-Men" moment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

There is an image here. If it's not showing up for you here's the direct link https://i.imgur.com/EjVps9Z.png (I also put that in an edit in the body as well)

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