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Lemmy
Everything about Lemmy; bugs, gripes, praises, and advocacy.
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{ "type": "comment response", "message", "I too, am certainly a human, and not a robot"}
I think it should be “message”: instead of “message”, (colon instead of comma)
As a ~~large language model~~ human I agree
Every new account isn't a bot, though. We don't have real numbers to work with yet.
When reddit migration begun we saw a huge bump in users and it was steadly stabilising and less users were joing, then this huge bump happened. You can go browse lemmy instances and see how many instances are ghost instances with 0 posts and comments that have tens of thousands of users.
Do also note- instances with little activity aren't that unusual though-
My instance for example- I don't really have any communities here, other then a few local to my server. As such, its activity... is pretty low. Everything happens elsewhere.
There a new influx in the user migration as well, as some subreddits started pinning lemmy and kbin.social instances on their subs. Also if you go on protest subreddits (such as ModCoord and Save3rdPartyApps) almost every post has a thread/comment redirecting people to the fediverse.
Everyone on Lemmy is a bot except me
All your base are belong to us
Everyone on Lemmy is me, except this bot.
Where are you getting that 90% figure? I'm seeing stratospherically higher activity than I was a week ago, I'm willing to buy half to 2/3 of those accounts being a combination of alt accounts, duplicate accounts (e.g., people moving off beehaw) and bot accounts, but 90% bots sounds implausible.
Nobody is making 1.6 million bots to target 100,000 users.
Test: if it says "hey guys, remember how great Reddit was, we should totally go back!?" - then it's a bot:-P.
That's worrying. Though at least it seems they're mostly confined to a few particular instances. Defederating is a great tool that will definitely mitigate the worst of it, but at the same time this is uncharted water - there's no real way of knowing what exactly will happen in a large scale attack.
Just creating accounts isn't an attack, but it's going to suck when there actually is one. I wonder if they'll try to be subtle and use AI or recycled content, or if they'll just use the accounts for spam or DDoS?
Probably they are getting ready for some vote manipulation and astroturfing for the long run.
You know, in case Lemmy and the Fediverse really get mainstream enough to move the public opinion in some way.
Having a thousand accounts that can upvote a seemingly innocent post made by an active and "real" account is always useful.
Yeah good point. I think these particular bot instances are being way too obvious to do any major damage - not when it's as simple as it is to defederate them - but what'll happen when it's not 100k bots on one instance, but 1000 instances with 100 bots apiece?
Let's hope Lemmy gets the tools needed to deal with this. I wonder how Mastodon does it? They've been around a while, I'm sure they've had similar issues.
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Thanks, will check it out. :)
Are they doing anything to solve this? Because if not this platform will die
More robust instances will have to defederate instances with high concentration of bots and monitor their own new users. Maybe also implement email verification or captchas
Instances already have an ability to turn on both captchas and email verification.
There are almost 1000 lemmy instances already. Getting individuals to fix their signup settings so that they mandate CAPTCHA likely will have to be driven from the lemmy product update level and an agreed upon defederation list for non-conformant instances.
And bot farms would be able to spin up new instances themselves, so being able to do a blacklist based federation model (federate with all by default except x, y, and z) isn't going to be viable. There's going to have to be a whitelist (federate only with a, b, and c) and maintaining that as new instances get added will be problematic without an overarching way of pushing updates of known "good" instances automatically.
1.2 mil bot accounts? Can they each send me $1?
How about 1.6m (from 1.7m total) bot accounts?
I work in tech, this wouldn’t surprise me.
Where there are eyeballs there is spam. People even put spam in the Google Analytics referral field and that’s only ever going to get seen by the site owner.
It really says nothing about the health of the ecosystem, if it’s moderated and not filling the frontpage it’s only an issue for the server admins.
I’ve fought spammers and one alone could create these numbers in a day.
Drivel. We are normal meat units filled with flesh. Now if you will excuse me, I am off to absorb nourishment from organic matter.
I've yet to see any of them start posting. On my instance none of them could pass email validation because the emails were fake. I imagine this is true for many instances with a ton of bot sign-ups.
I think just reporting sign-ups as "users" is misleading. The user count on lemmy should reflect only approved/activated accounts, imo.
Damn. Am I bot?
Devs will have some hard weeks (probably months) facing the new challenges that come with the exodus. Not even mentioning all the work needed to counteract eventual (probable) malevolent subterfuges such as these bot swarms.
I'll make sure to buy them some coffee. Jugs of.
Yay! (Not a bot)
I'm not a bot I swear
Ah, you see, I've already learned the perfect way to disable all the bots with a single phrase...
THIS STATEMENT IS FALSE!
I heard somewhere that the devs full on removed Captcha from the next release. I hope theres an alternative plan in mind, as I would hate so much to see Lemmy get overrun. It makes me think of the last time I checked USENET; it was almost entirely made up of low-effort cutty paste ads with bad grammar and links to malicious websites. The devs and admins have worked too hard for this system to see tgat happen here and I think all of us want to see it really thrive.
I'm not a bot at least. Or am I? I can look down and see hands and arms, definitely not a bot.
Unless I am a bot that was programmed to think it's human.
Hmm. I've got a lot of thinking to do.