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Everything about Lemmy; bugs, gripes, praises, and advocacy.

For discussion about the lemmy.ml instance, go to [email protected].

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Just joined, and well, I'm thinking ill stay. Ive been looking for a good reddit alternative for a while now. devs, you've done quite some good work here.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I really hope lemmy is the one, the biggest plus is that it isnt one company, so no investors to fuck it up

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Very much agreed. UI friendly, both on desktop and on mobile--even mobile browser. Instances are kinda confusing but I think im starting to understand it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Agreed. It seems promising and has that magic feeling of when I first encountered reddit for the first time post-Digg. That said, the federated aspects is neat but confusing... Still trying to work out how to view communities on different instances.

EDIT: Ok so apparently this post is actually on a different instance. Not entirely sure how I managed to get here. Now I need to figure out how to subscribe to remote communities?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For now your best bet is to do the community search in the section at the top of the web ui. for example, choose "All" in the filter and search for "gaming" and it will find all gaming communities on all the intances.

The sub you're on right now also displays on the right hand side of the post, you can also press subscribe there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks, now we're cooking with fire! I originally was trying to do it on the Android app, seems like the search isn't functioning as expected. Web UI works as expected, not a big deal anyways since I can just "app-ify" it with a home screen shortcut.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's really weird. There's so few people here, but the conversations are really good. Everyone is friendly and the place is growing. That's a really great vibe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is how it was at reddit during/before/relatively after the digg exodus.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup. I mentioned this on Reddit as well. OG Reddit vibes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sadly i checked in on the Apollo sub and there's a lot of hate on there for Lemmy. Not sure if people fully understand it or they are just fighting the inevitable change that is coming lol. But it def. reminds me of the digg meltdown and how people were hellbent that reddit sucked and wouldn't last and was too difficult to use... lol change is hard sometimes but it's life.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are their complaints about lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The complaints are all over the place so likely coming from people that either A.) haven't actually used Lemmy. B.) Used it for .5 seconds got confused and gave up. C.) Are just afraid of change and just wanna stick their heads in the sand...

But most of them center around how difficult lemmy is to use and how "communities are way too overbearing with the rules." , that it uses the new.reddit UI, and that it's run by a bunch of "tankies"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's a tankie? My biggest concern is the fragmentation of communities due to multiple servers, so the numbers in any one server will always be smaller.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

they're complaining about us lemmygrad users, but we aren't even the biggest instance anymore + the 2 recommended instances block us anyways so it's a worthless complaint now

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes I've noticed this as well. I think there's some denial mixed in there. Right now the 3rd-party apps still work. They can still use old.reddit. Adult content hasn't been banned on site and official app yet. The IPO and likely cash-out/sell-out that will follow is still some months away. A lot of the people are in the "this is fine" stage at the moment, similar to the situation over at Twitter. Most of them will see the light eventually. That said, there does seem to be a growing interest in Lemmy already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I agree things are just now starting to intensify on Reddit. If and when they go through with those changes will be when some people start to wake up. The ones that don’t see it then probably never will lol.

Yeah, I’ll admit until a few days ago I had never heard about lemmy. Wasn’t until I was seriously seeking something other than Reddit did I come across this site. It reminds me some of the twitter exodus after musk bought it. Lots of new interest in mastodon like almost overnight. I’m sure some of it died down due to mastodon not being *exactly * like twitter and it does have a bit of a learning curve but surprisingly mastodon continues to grow at a pretty decent pace. I imagine a bit of a similar situation here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My thoughts:

404: FetchError: request to http://lemmy:8536/api/v3/site

I think the server may be struggling a bit under everyone checking it out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's my opinion that nsfw content is what will make or break Lemmy, Beehaw, Kbin, or any other fediverse community.
Every single social media giant has some degree of nsfw content, it's a big draw that gets non-techies to join.
Reddit, Tumblr, Twitter, Instagram, Tiktok, Facebook; all of them have/had some amount of pornographic material. Of course it's incredibly difficult to moderate porn though, and in no way am I saying that it should be unmoderated, but I also think that 100% excluding it would be a huge factor in determining long-term success. There's even a song about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6eFNRKEROw

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

To paraphrase an oldie: if NSFW was not allowed, there'd be just one [lemmy] community called c/bringbacktheporn

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is NSFW banned all together or just on this instance? Couldn't someone spin up a lemmy instance just for NSFW?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Here since yesterday, but I like everything I've seen. The communities are welcoming, and users' profiles lack the useless vanity metrics but allow enough customization to feel personal. Jerboa works well on Android, and everything looks well thought out generally. I hope Lemmy is going up to a great future!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought the same thing when Voat started as a mirror to Reddit. It was similar for a while but every time a troll or Nazi was ejected from Reddit they migrated to Voat. Eventually I was one of the last liberals there. Is there anyone maintaining order here or will it be the wild west ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the lemmy structure really annoys trolls and right-wingers. They could register on a server, but they would have to play by the rules (be nice, don't be a nazi etc), which they really don't want. So they want their own server, but quickly realize that they'll be alone there with their miserable peers, which they also don't like.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm new to this federated thing, what prevents the nazi from hosting his own Lemmy instance where being a nazi is ok, and the content from the nazi instance showing up in "all"?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nothing. This server existed, it was called wolfballs.com. lemmy.ml, beehaw.org, feddit.de and many others had this server blocked. So nothing was showing up from them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just switched too, this is actually my first comment. Idk why everyone on reddit said lemme was too confusing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Welcome, glad to have you!

Yeah I'm not sure why people think this is so intimidating. Click signup, get signed up, then start commenting / posting / creating communities. No one has to understand the term fediverse to do any of that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Click signup. Research servers to try to find one that looks good, wonder if you can sign up for multiple, or change account to other server, or what all the implications of having tons of servers even are, encounter choice paralysis. Quit and go somewhere that hides the federation.

Part of email's success is that for most people the federation has been hidden. You got your email through your university or employer (pre eternal September), then through your ISP (post eternal September), then later through gmail. There's no apparent meaningful choice to setting it up, you just use the default. The choice in the fediverse is just as meaningless, but it's a huge focus of the process for no good reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it just needs time to develop. Devs need to realize that most people aren't interested or don't have time to think or care about what federation is. Stop trying to teach people and just give users a one-click way to immediately start scrolling and browsing posts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@exterstellar @Eufalconimorph this is exactly the same conundrum with Mastodon, all the technical mumbo jumbo confuses users, simpler words and a quick start experience is everything to really gain traction and maintain engagement during the few first days and obviously over time.... Federation, Activity pub, instances should be Directory, plain and simple

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like it here. Its small but growing. I just wish the UI was bit better. Selecting text is weird :S

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just trying the jerboa android app and finding it 100% usable. Does all I need and easily replaced my RiF reddit app.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's still a bit confusing to me, but I'm already starting to like it here. Especially with the Jerboa app.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you find a way to collapse/expand comment threads with Jerboa, let me know! It's the main thing I'm struggling with right now, but should be a easy fix.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can hold the space between the username and the upvote / comment age, in the middle top of the comment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you so much! Not knowing about this had been been making reading larger threads like this one fairly cumbersome.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No problem 😁

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