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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

But F the poor I guess

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[–] Limeey 99 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Don’t you see? Rich people create jobs! Migrants just sit around and collect money from the hard work of everyone around them!

Oh wait, it’s the opposite isn’t it…

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Best I can do is spent some of the claps I have left from the generous clapping during covid.

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[–] snipe_at 57 points 1 year ago (14 children)

while i understand the sentiment, it is quite novel when a submarine is lost vs when a surface ship is lost

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When surface ship is declared lost that's usually because it's already became submarine.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I laughed at this and I don't like it.

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[–] voxov7 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

you've got to get yourself killed in a hot way to get my attention sweetie, okay? Non of that self preservation shit the poors are into

[–] Limeey 8 points 1 year ago

Have you tried live streaming your drowning? Maybe that would get more attention from folks. Gotta pull yourself up by them booty straps!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many times do you hear about a submarine going missing though?

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[–] jarvis 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's because those billionaires are down there boosting the economy and creating jobs... for search and rescue teams.

[–] chemical_cutthroat 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm honestly thankful for the educational content that has come out of this. I'd always known that I didn't want to cram myself into a tiny, pressurized soup can, but now I can point to the exact reasons why.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Especially one built by a guy who scoffs at safety protocols

[–] bergerz 7 points 1 year ago

tHeY jUsT sLoW uS dOwN

[–] VubDapple 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Overheard:

"They paid for the full Titanic experience and that's what they got. What's the problem?"

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[–] Redex68 27 points 1 year ago (9 children)

That's not really comparable. When any citizen of a country gets lost either at sea or on land, large probably also multi million dollar searches are performed.

The difference is more to do with whether they're immigrants or natives.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But it is also absurd that we, on one hand, agree that all human lives have equal worth.. and on the other straight up consider a citicizen to be worth more than 1000 non-citizens.

I don't know how one can possibly argue that it is humane and in line with what we say our values are.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Small correction, it has to do with whether they're citizens or not.

But being a billionaire also helps.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (25 children)

It's easy to polarize with such a headline/picture. Reality is way more nuanced than this:

Migrants are in fact being saved from shipwrecks, it is (sadly) in the news every week or so. The main problem is that these migrants don't have communication devices with them to signal emergencies, unlike the submarine. The boat on the surface alarmed emergency services when they lost connection with the sub, starting the rescue operation. It is difficult to rescue a boat of migrants, when you don't even know that they are in danger in the first place.

Secondly, the harsh reality is that most migrants try to enter a country illegally. Which by definition, is a huge risk on their part. The rich people on the sub were not doing anything illegal. However, in both cases, the people in or on the boat accepted the risks involved in their endeavor.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

If these dumbasses have enough money to drop on a ticket aboard this sub to look at something you can see on a documentary, they should also have to foot the bill for the rescue mission. I'm sure all these rescue programs are tax funded that they dodge themselves. So, not only are they squirreling and eating up money we could all be using, but now we're picking up the check.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I'm out of the loop on this one. What happened?

[–] Limeey 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Rich dude created a company that provides submarine tours of the titanic wreckage, except he built it and operated it stupidly (off the shelf "camping" parts, bad weather conditions). Now he's trapped in the submarine with like 4 other folks where no one knows where they are, and they are expected to run out of oxygen in like 12 hours from posting this.

Super tragic but like, totally avoidable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am impressed that he got these people to pay him for a ride in his janky submarine. I bet that each „ticket“ costs more than the whole submarine.

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[–] root 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A bunch of super wealthy dudes (including a bloke who went to space with Mr. Amazon and two members of one of Pakistan's biggest petrochemical families) got into an obvious death trap after signing a waiver that said that there's a decent chance that it'd kill them and now that it's gone missing multiple governments are spending millions of dollars on an attempt to rescue them on the off chance that they're actually still alive because the lives of the wealthy matter more than the lives of normal people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or maybe it has to do more with the region in which they're lost. The USCG is typically very good about aiding anyone within their AOR, no matter their socioeconomic class. This should be framed more as "why isn't Europe/Greece doing their jobs" than "why are the USCG/Canada actually doing their jobs".

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Maybe they're afraid of the families of the rich suing them /shrug

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Nobody cares that they are millionaires!
You think the coastguard is only helping them because they are millionaires? No they are trying to help because it's their job!

I guess all those miners getting stuck in mines during collapses and millions of equipment was shipped over to try and save them over weeks of time was because the miners were all millionaires.

You have a fucked up view of the world if you think only millionaires get helped in emergency situations.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The US federal government values the average citizen's life at something like ~$12 million. This is mostly for policy like if 1,000 people a year die from something, say an unsafe ferris wheel design, a solution that would save them costing more than (1,000*12,000,000=)$12 billion would be rejected and considered not worth the economic cost. If the solution were cheaper, and cost like $500 million, then with good lobbying and a reasonable administration, it could easily become a new regulation.

Generally speaking if 5 anybodies went down like this submersible, you'd expect at least some millions to be spent in recovery missions.


https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2020/07/17/870483369/your-life-is-worth-10-million-according-to-the-government

The ~$12 million figure is what the NHTSA is currently using for its purposes.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Think about it. If we just imprisoned all rich people, they didn't have to be rescued from their shitty, expensive vacation trips.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

But silver lining, we now know we can get the rich to take care of themselves if we offer them sketchy exploration opportunities too exclusive for the poors

[–] Darkwatch00 9 points 1 year ago

This is gonna be turned into a movie so fast...in fact I bet the rights are already been sold to a studio.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Problem is the choices are;

A) seeing migrants die en masse makes people feel bad and helpless and weak.

B) Allowing people to say “stupid dumbass billionaires” makes people feel like they are better than some stupid dumbass billionaires.

It was always going to be B. Most times the media just goes where we demand it goes. If you want to complain about why the media is so shit -blame all of us.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

i kinda wish the rich people had to deal with the pooping situation

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