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Ive been runing Debian 12 (kde) since bookworm was released and am loving it.

I have recently discovered Devuan which seems to be Debian without systemd - what is the benefit of removing this init system?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't we have this thread yesterday?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I swear I saw one but no idea how to properly search lemmy. Here's todays thread though https://aussie.zone/post/1515282?scrollToComments=true

[–] wolandark -1 points 1 year ago

devuan is a work of art. Artix and Devuan are both the only distros I'd turn to for stability and not having to deal with systemdoom's mess

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

SysV init is crap, but so is systemd as init process. One example is that an admin needs to know why the system does not boot properly. In this case the kernel messages help. systemd is not helping here.

I've currently one problem that I need to solve, but I need 2 people, one to make a video, the other to press Ctrl+Alt+Del to capture an error message that appears for 0,1s after sending the key sequence, when my PC does not boot. This is crap! Why the hell it does not boot occasionally, I have no idea and I've been an Linux/Unix admin for 25 years now. Why I cannot find it? Of course because systemd doesn't even log it!

This is brand new when systemd appeared. I loved to see the kernel messages to full extent...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My problem with systemd is that since I'm practically forced to use it that it's flakey in starting services after boot (independent of service and distro). Since systemd I had to install monit to check if all services came up. Didn't had that problem before. Or I forgot, it's been a while....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Don't worry about the downvotes, Lemmy is a systemd sausage fest. If you want negative "karma", just write "systemd bad" or even "pulseausio bad" anywhere, and wait...

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