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Welcome to today’s daily kōrero!

Anyone can make the thread, first in first served. If you are here on a day and there’s no daily thread, feel free to create it!

Anyway, it’s just a chance to talk about your day, what you have planned, what you have done, etc.

So, how’s it going?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

In the last couple of days I've planted some Butternut Pumpkin, Zucchini and Yams, into pots to get a start for when it warms up.

Yams

Potato seeds (yes seeds, not seed potatoes) I planted a little while ago have sprouted. First time I've planted potato seeds. I'm interested in how they grow and what the results are like. I collected the seeds last year.

Potato seedlings

The Grey Oyster mushrooms I bought last weekend have come on strong, and I've ordered some Shiitake mushrooms to try as well. Testing which ones the boss likes the best before inoculating some logs.

Grey Oyster Mushrooms

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Amazing! I never really thought about seeds from potatoes. Typically when you use a non-seed to grow fruit or vegetables, it's because you need a clone of a good plant to ensure a good crop. Have you grown potatoes from seed before? Do they typically vary much from plant to plant?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First time planting potato seeds. It's supposed to be a bit hit and miss on what you get, but it leads to you to creating your own potato i.e. not a clone like when you plant seed potatoes.

I'm trying to get to a point where I don't have to buy in much each year. Produce my own everything including seeds. Just something to have a go at, no doubt some things won't go to plan. But that's the fun.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's cool. Is your plan to get some nice ones of your own and start cloning them? Or to do seeds every year and see what happens?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably both since I collected a heap of seeds. If I find a spud that we like I'll try to build up the numbers. We are in a particularly good spot for spuds as we don't get any diseases carried in here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does that mean you can plant in the same place year after year without issue?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty much. I think crop rotation is a bit overstated personally. If I find a spot that a particular veg. grows well in, why would I not keep growing it there. If you've got healthy soil and don't introduce infected soil, all should be good, though some diseases can blow in with the wind, but here, where I am, due to geography, it's not known to be an issue.

Some plants can build up bugs like nematodes in the soil if continually cropped in the same spot. However, that can be managed, either by planting companion plants that repel the pest, or growing a crop that inhibits it in the off season. I don't go overboard on this type of thing, but it can be helpful in some cases.

With potatoes, the issue is spreading the disease - I'm not intending to sell or give-away potatoes as seed, so that's not a problem. I'm more likely to bring in disease if I buy in seed potatoes, but certified seed potato should be okay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the info. I just rotate because that's what people say you should do. It's nice to have background info.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which part of the country are you? I've got some acorn squash seeds I'm wanting to try this year, but feel it's still too early to start them.

So far I've started fennel, tomatoes, korean peppers, nasturtiums, calendula and manuka. Still waiting on my lettuce and cayenne seeds to germinate. Also planning on doing some okra, basil and pigeon peas once we get further into spring.

Which mushroom kit did you get? I've been wanting to try one of the bucket kits from Sporeshift, but no extra money for experiments at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which part of the country are you?

About as far South and West as you can get. Have a good sized hot house, so can get things started early. The weather says 0C or maybe -1C tonight but day temps get above 18 behind glass/polycarbonate.

Which mushroom kit did you get?

Shiitake Mushroom Grow Kit - Splash & Grow Block

I'll likely buy 1000 dowels when we decide which we prefer.

Many locals shut shop in the garden here over winter, but I manage some reasonable growth with the right plants.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

About as far South and West as you can get. Have a good sized hot house, so can get things started early. The weather says 0C or maybe -1C tonight but day temps get above 18 behind glass/polycarbonate.

Ah lucky, I wish I had the space for one. Day temps aren't bad in Hamilton but the cold nights plus the ground being soaked the last few weeks makes it tough. Some of my trees have started new growth but have been damaged by the few nights where the temps dropped to 0C or below.

Where are you getting the logs from? Or is it just from your property? I'd be keen to see how you get on with growing on logs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where are you getting the logs from?

About half our property (~2 ha) is native bush - they tell me it has never been harvested, so it is as it was before whoever came here first. Actually, it was Europeans that stripped most of the bush for sheep/beef/dairy and some crops around here. I'll either limb a couple of Southland Beech and try them, or there is a Gum overhanging our fence line that needs to go. Need to find out which is likely to be best - I'd prefer to use the Southland Beech as it's native, and I can continually trim a few without any impact.

A slow process, but I'm happy to post in 6-12-24 months, or however long it takes, how things progress. I was considering growing some in bags, but the idea of growing in logs means so much less input in time and $'s. I'll probably have a play with some wood chip beds in the meantime.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I look forward to your post then!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's your favourite supermarket apple this time of year? I always go for Mariri Red.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

We’re partial to Rose. Ambrosia’s are nice too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone got a good decaf coffee recommendation? I've never managed to find one that tastes good black.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People's Coffee - Colombia Tolima if you want something light and fruity

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Decaf? Looks like they don't have a decaf option for that coffee.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh haha I can't read. I like Supreme's Colombia Hulia decaf.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

$70 for 1kg? Is it $70 a kg good?

As a comparison, the other suggestion of Hummingbird is $39 for a kg.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

$17.50 for 250g of single origin, high Q-score coffee is not unreasonable. You'll see some single origins at Flight Coffee go for $23 for 250g or so, and obviously very high Q-score coffee goes for significantly more. I don't usually buy 1kg lots of coffee due to freshness concerns.

Hummingbird claims to source speciality grade coffee but I have seen so many defects (both roast defects and defects in the green) when buying from them that I kind of don't believe them (or they're getting ripped off by their suppliers). You still can make tasty coffee with Hummingbird but I think the quality of raw ingredients and the skill of the people who roast the coffee is lower than basically all of the other roasters that are targeting the speciality NZ market (as opposed to the commodity coffee market).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure you and I are on totally different levels haha. I wouldn't know how to spot a roast defect and I don't think I notice the difference between freshly roasted coffee or a few weeks old.

I think I'll stick to $40/kg coffees until such time as I can appreciate high grade coffee a bit more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha fair enough. I thought owning lots of coffee gear would save me money in the long run but now I just end up buying more expensive coffee lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've never been under the impression that owning coffee gear would save me money. I used to only occasionally drink coffee, when other with others (I would say I was only a social drinker), but when I started to get coffee equipment for home (since I now work almost full time from home) it was always going to cost more than not drinking coffee 😆

[–] Floofah 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can’t tell you about their decaf, but we find the Hummingbird coffees very nice. It’s tough suggesting food and drinks as everyone will have their own taste preferences, but for us the Hummingbird coffees are not bitter and burnt like some, just smooth and delicious, but that’s just us!!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks! My issue is I get good coffee from somewhere, and then I get a decaf and it doesn't taste that great. Gotta brew it for ages too and use extra coffee or it's weak.

I don't think I've tried the hummingbird decaf so will give that a go.

[–] Floofah 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess the decaffing removes the flavours as well. I monitor my blood pressure with a wrist strap that optically measures it 20+ times a day. I can easily see my BP rises coinciding with whenever I have a coffee. Luckily it doesn’t make me jittery though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If I have coffee in the afternoon I notice it affect my sleep, and I don't get enough of that as it is. But sometimes I just really feel like a coffee. So the answer is decaf 🙂

[–] Albatr0ss 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seconding Hummingbird decaf - I used to have Hummingbird Crave every morning, which was my favourite from their line, but now I prefer the flavour of the decaf one anyway.

I think they also do a few 50/50 decaf/caffeinated blends too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Just got some at the supermarket, will give it a go 🙂

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boat repair continues, a few small leaks filled with silicone, and the new paint has been sanded and blended to match the rest of the hull. She's almost ready to be handed back to the owner.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Ilovethebomb is this work or hobby? I've often looked at project boats and wondered if it's worth the effort.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

A bit of both, it's a cash job for another paddler. I've done similar repairs on my own boats as well though.

A few people I paddle with have built their own boats from scratch though, which is something I'd like to do one day.