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Graphene OS vs Lineage OS (self.lineage_os)

submitted 1 year ago by chockblock to c/lineage_os

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I am currently running Graphene OS and I am very happy with it, but I am not so happy with my Pixel phone. I am wanting to switch hardware that Graphene does not support.

Would I be losing many privacy & security advantages by switching to Lineage?

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[–] nomadjoanne 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This is an old post but here are my two cents.

LineageOS supports much more devices. It's what I personally use. It's security very much outclassed by that of GrapheneOS. However, to be honest I don't care all that much. I'm not a journalist or targeted person. And I, personally, like to root and "pimp out" my device with kernel mods and the like. While all this CAN be done on GrapheneOS, it sort of defeats the purpose of having GrapheneOS. It's supposed to be a secure, locked-down fortress.

In short, if you want a super secure, de-Googled device, then GrapheneOS. But if you want a Googled device you can do a bit more with, and really make yours in every way, then LineageOS.

[–] josephg 2 points 1 year ago

lineageos is NOT a Googled device.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with all this and will add that, even though what GrapheneOS team is doing is very admirable, the very fact that LOS (and automatically Lineage4microg) runs on hundreds of devices, makes the latter way more useful to a LOT of people (meaning a lot less throwaway tech too), plus not tieing you down to a single hw vendor!

Heck, even an old enough Pixel phone that programmatically loses Graphene's support, is still almost garanteed support from LOS for many years

In my mind LOS is 95% of the way there, microg 97%, GOS 99%? As far as android goes, they're all great

[–] nomadjoanne 3 points 1 year ago

This is why I kind of hate ARM. Amd, why on the laptop end, i have no inrention of awitching to ARM anytime soon. The inability of these SOCs to use a generic kernel is just infuriating.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hi people, so weird but if anyone's reading this, I thought there was only one comment on this post, the one by @nomadjoanne, turns out there were actually way more from two months ago, but they're invisible from my instance (sh.itjust.works)

How could I see this one (from a lemmy.world user) but not others by users of the same instance? Anyone know of a possible explanation? Ty

[–] s38b35M5 4 points 1 year ago

Both can be completely de-Googled. Privacy is equal. Graphene has a slight edge in security with hardened memory allocation.

I prefer Lineage OS so I'm not tied to a device platform. That's just my opinion, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sorry I don't have an answer to your question, but can I ask you why are you not happy with your pixel? I'm about to buy a new smartphone and I'm considering a pixel

thanks in advance!

[–] chockblock 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a couple reasons, I am not a huge fan of the shape, meaning I would rather have a smaller screen, but thicker phone to allow for a bigger battery. Pixel 4 screen size was perfect in my opinion. There is also something about the square corners I don't really like, can't really put my finger on it, but again the Pixel 4 was great. I only upgraded because the battery was wearing out. Also with the 6a, not a great camera. Not any better than the 4. I would recommend trying Pixel 7 or waiting for the 8.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

thanks!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know about the details, but afaik LineageOS is focused on providing (outdated) devices with up-to-date software, with privacy and security playing a minor role, while GrapheneOS is focused on privacy and security, with no longterm (3 years +) support/updates.

The article is a bit older, but imo sums up the differences between the two OSs good enough: https://pyrephone.com/de-googled-phone-comparison-e-os-vs-lineage-vs-calyx-vs-graphene/

[–] Discoslugs -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. In many ways

[–] chockblock 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What kinds of ways?

Thanks

[–] Discoslugs 1 points 1 year ago

Im not an expert and i dont know all the ways grapheneos protects its users. But grapheneos is designed from the bottom up to remove google play services. Specifically MicroG. Which is a huge source of data export from your phone.

Linage os is not designed for high grade privacy and security. Its Barebones android, its often used by developers to write code for android apps and such. Lineageos is often used on hardware that is becoming out dated and can have security bugs and other problems because developers dont want to spend time fixing things on platforms that in EOL.

Now go read for yourself. Your asking some very basic questions here you could find out on the grapheneos website.

https://grapheneos.org/

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