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[โ€“] meteotsunami 10 points 2 years ago

Teams: will it make the racing interesting and more competitive?

Everyone: Yes

Teams: Then no thank you.

That's why I'm much more invested in WEC and Indycar, I want to watch a race, not a billion dollar procession.

[โ€“] ksm1467 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm 100% behind removing the blankets. One of the stated impacts is towards sustainability targets. However, the main contribution to F1 emissions is shipping/logistics. Until they address the calendar and the ridiculous waste associated to the unnecessary jet setting across the world, it's all meaningless.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Spot on, it's window dressing to such an absurd point

[โ€“] Protegee9850 4 points 2 years ago

Also I want to see drivers have to demonstrate the skill of managing tire heat.

[โ€“] MaxVerstappen 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's the equivalent of banning plastic straws.

[โ€“] ksm1467 1 points 2 years ago
[โ€“] userdata2 9 points 2 years ago

Not sure what the massive complaint is. Obviously we're not going to use the current tire compounds without blankets, that would be stupid. Removing the blankets would come with adjustments to the compounds to allow for safe and effective use at ambient temps. My hope would be that it would allow for both overcut and undercut strategies to be useful, which could make the pit strategy super interesting.

[โ€“] quinten 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I do not understand the rule at all. F1 is all about safety lately - with the mechanics unable to cheer at the side of the circuit - and they remove tyre blankets? Removing tyre blankets is in my opinion even more dangerous. Imagine de Vries coming out of the pits with fresh slicks and missing the first corner because his tyres are not at temperature - with Alonso next to him. Then his career is definitely over.

[โ€“] MegaUmbreon 9 points 2 years ago

It's doable, other series do it (F2, Indy). I just don't think the pirelli tyres are made to heat up properly by being driven.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel like itโ€™s something that might result in a bad few practice sessions and maybe a race or two, but I think itโ€™s something the drivers will quickly get used to

[โ€“] gdbjr 1 points 2 years ago

Exactly. Drivers have this magical pedal that allows them to control their speed. People acting like drivers will go flat out all the time and crash constantly.

[โ€“] Goatifi 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think that rule is stupid. They will save what? 230k per weekend, thats 5.3mil per season, and teams spend 135mil per season. Is that 5 mil that teams save really that important? If they really wanted to save enviroment and be "carbon neutral" they would at least try to make number of races smaller and calendar more enviroment friendly, this blanket bullshit is just PR.

[โ€“] JineteDeAbuelas47 3 points 2 years ago

Exactly, the calendar is absolutely insane, fix the damn logistics that not only are far from efficient from an environmental standpoint - that has to take a toll on the teams and the personnel and I believe we're getting, step by step, closer to them saying ok enough

[โ€“] woelkchen 3 points 2 years ago

They will save what? 230k per weekend, thats 5.3mil per season, and teams spend 135mil per season. Is that 5 mil that teams save really that important?

That money will be needed once there are more crashes and more repair cost.

[โ€“] LUHG_HANI 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

230k to heat tryes is insane. Why's it so expensive?

[โ€“] Goatifi 3 points 2 years ago

Well you need a lot of energy to keep tires hot, also I think that they need to heat tires 1-2h before sessions (not sure about this) and also whole session, so those blankets are turned on a lot of time during the weekend.

[โ€“] Fingerthief 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Iโ€™ve been really looking forward to finally having no tyre blankets, could have made racing a bit more interesting and added another important dynamic to driver skill.

Itโ€™s a shame they seem against it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@Fingerthief @goldenjoe6 I am seeing everyone say no tyre blankets would make racing more competitive, but I don't think I understand why. Can you explain?

Regardless of if they remove or keep the blankets, it will be the same for everyone, why would it make things more competitive? just because it is tougher to time a pitstop when you need extra time to get tyres up to temp or something?

[โ€“] Tetractys 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep, if they tyres are already warmed, you can pop in and get the undercut by being faster, quicker. But, if there's no heaters and the rubber isn't sticky cold - you'll lose lots more places, and add more risk of crashing, changing of places, shuffling of the feild etc.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Fingerthief 1 points 2 years ago

To add onto that, I think it brings to the forefront each drivers own skill at warming up the tires and the risk vs rewards of being extra aggressive for quicker tire warmup could be interesting.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

@goldenjoe6 I'm sure they'll get rid of them eventually. Them not doing it now doesn't mean they have to keep the blankets for years to come.

[โ€“] lanolinoil 1 points 2 years ago

Lame. Everybody wanna be Senna nobody wanna be Senna

[โ€“] Plaid_Kaleidoscope 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The F1 circus has taken all it's good will it's garnered over the past 10 years and churned out a mediocre race product wrapped in the glitz of Monaco.

I'm a massive motorsports fan, and right now the racing just isn't good..

[โ€“] Rac3r4Life 1 points 2 years ago

It is such a bummer. Getting rid of the warming blankets will greatly increase the competitive nature of pit stops, and it will make qualifying more interesting.

[โ€“] healer_56 -1 points 2 years ago

watch the FIA pull a spez and set the teams an ultimatum: if they dont follow they will put in place new more willing people as team principals xD