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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (13 children)

That's insane. I have the same Bose over-the-ear (I can't stand in-ear) headphones for years. They have been to the gym with me, jogging, and just existing in a humid, Tokyo summer for the last 5.5 years and have zero electronic issues. I did replace the exterior cushiony bit twice now, but the actual electronics are fine.

[–] Aceticon 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I've had some Bose Quiet Comfort (I think maybe it was the very first model, but might be the 2nd) for over a decade, with tons of use (for a while I did software development in the middle of a Trading Floor, think highly intellectual focus requiring work in the middle of a fishmonger's market) and had to use those things all the time.

They're all scratched on the outside by now (from going in and out of a backpack) and the ear cups were replaced twice.

Still work fine.

Best £250 I ever spent.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (18 children)

They cost $550, but they're certainly not worth $550

Stop buying logos people

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funnily enough, I don’t think there are any visible Apple logos in the AirPods Max.

[–] Madison420 7 points 1 year ago

They don't literally mean a logo in this case they essentially mean don't buy a brand because of the brand but something because it's good and worthwhile.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this another "your holding it wrong" level argument they're making?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I have a lot of apple kit - I appreciate their over-engineered approach to a lot of hardware, and I like their approach to privacy.

But they do make mistakes in design - the puck, the aerials, butterfly keyboards, unrepairability of design…

And one thing I really hate is their response to those errors. Its almost always to blame the user. I just wish they would be honest.

[–] MeanEYE 21 points 1 year ago (17 children)

There's nothing over-engineered in Apple products. They are the least amount of effort and maximum amount of polish to dazzle the masses so people think price is justified and give feeling of quality.

Throughout the history they have failed to fix common and known issues in generations of laptops. They chose cheaper version of aluminium which caused the bending of the phones. They reduced cost of manufacturing by removing a single drop of glue beneath a single chip which resulted in number of their plus sized phones to lose touch functionality.

Over-engineering would mean devices are robust, easy to repair and almost never need a repair. Apple is anything but that and their solution is usually to suggest buying a new device or charge you like you are buying a new device. All you need to do is see Louis' video on repeated engineering failures from Apple. Granted it's an old video, but if you watch the video you will see Apple doesn't really improve quality, just reduce price.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On repairability of design is not a mistake it's a feature.

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[–] _bug0ut 10 points 1 year ago

mistakes in design... unrepairability

Who... Who's gonna tell em?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am quite sure this is a legal issue. If they admit the mistake, probably customers in many countries would be allowed a free replacement or refund. And then shareholders would sue the company because it is mandatory to work on maximising profit.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Unrepairability isn't a mistake. It's a feature (for Apple).

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[–] InvaderDJ 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is an Apple miss. Their tendency for status equaling heavy materials and lack of obvious options just makes it a no-go for me. Noise cancelling, wireless, over the ear headphones exist for airplanes. Having a headset that is heavy, that doesn’t fold and can’t be turned off (only put to sleep in a dumb bra-like case) don’t meet that mark.

I’m sure they sound great and the magnetic ear cups a good idea, but this is a miss for me. The price is the final nail in the coffin. My Sony XM4s sound nearly as good, can be worn for long flights without fatigue, fold up, and because they’re light but sturdy plastic I’m not worried about them denting or anything like that if I drop them. And I didn’t have to pay over $500 for them.

[–] Vrijgezelopkamers 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I tested them and they don't even sound that great. For the price, there are a lot of WAY better options out there.

But that is the case with many Apple products.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And my dollar store earbuds have gone through the wash three times and still work.

[–] riodoro1 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Surely they sound great too. Noise reduction and all

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I mean, of course my earbuds sound like garbage, but the airpod max should not break from sweat lol.

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[–] Tolstoshev 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apple has done the math and it’s cheaper to deny deny deny than to do the right thing. And that’s factoring in the inevitable class action lawsuit payouts.

https://youtu.be/SiB8GVMNJkE

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/SiB8GVMNJkE

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[–] Astroturfed 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I knew exactly what clip this would be. I think it's about time for my annual fight club rewatch. Always makes me want to/wonder why no one has started some anti corporate domestic terrorist groups...

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Max might have more questionable design decisions than any Apple product in history

[–] upsurge 47 points 1 year ago (31 children)

The Magic Mouse would like a word.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Magic Mouse: charging port on bottom

AirPods Max: can’t turn off without putting in case, can’t use wired, condensation death

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

And the puck mouse.

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