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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is how do we get there? In a market there will always be actors powerful enough to corrupt the governmenta and influence regulation in an undemocratic way.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yeah!! if MY party was in power, the government would not be corrupt!!! its definitely not the system that is flawed

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What this planet needs is a Magna Carta of sorts that limits the power of all people, corporations or other entities or groups. Simple as that. We need limits! Extreme inequality will ALWAYS breed civil unrest.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Markets are inherently problematic and lead to wealth being centralized in the hands of the few owners. A well regulated market ignores the problem which must be addressed; the dichotomy of workers and owners. Class struggle won't be fixed if not addressed. Neo-liberalism markets can't be fixed with more neo-liberalism.

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[–] pm_boobs_send_nudes 12 points 1 year ago (13 children)

That's an extremely narrow view point I'd say. In my country the government promotes the growth of existing big corporations so that there can be more jobs and infrastructure development - but this has in the end lead to a widening of gap and has essentially only made the rich even richer.

I genuinely believe promoting start ups is better for the middle class than big corporations, as usually startups pay a crazy amount of money if you ask for it compared to what a big rich corpo would give you (ironically).

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[–] UnfortunateShort 12 points 1 year ago

I mean, it's hard to argue against that, because there is evidence that it works in Europe. Might need less corrupt governments in some places tho

[–] UnfortunateShort 11 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I know a lot of you are meming, but the amount of dogshit takes here is almost depressing.

There is no single answer to what a good government looks like, there is no "best one" and surely any single one that is based purely on ideals or idealized human behavior will fail, no matter how hard you believe in it.

One of the arguably most successful governments is the Chinese one and they are and were neither just, nor friendly, nor purely capitalist, communist or authoritarian. They are very China first and fuck everyone else and that works because of a lack of conscience and them adapting to everything without a second thought. Looking away and screwing people over as needed. You can be capitalist as long as it works for them. You can do whatever if it benefits them.

The US does this too, in different ways with similar effects.

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[–] Ibex0 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I hadn't experienced hexbear (literally) shitting up the place yet, has a way to block entire instances been implemented or do I gotta find a new one that isn't federated with them?

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[–] ChopArts 10 points 1 year ago

Left are the goodies

Right are the baddies.

Simples.

[–] Lemmylefty 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What a system is capable of doing initially for a lucky fraction of the populace and where its inevitable and terrible end leads for the vast majority are two entirely different things.

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[–] dipshit 9 points 1 year ago

Reality has a leftist bias.

[–] nomadjoanne 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just a tinsy tiny one.

But look, I will happily state my true opinions on here. Let them downvote me. My skin isn't paper thin.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it's not that they have a leftist bias here, but that they have a Marxist bias. I find I get drowned, or just mass-accused of being a liberal, for simply not being a Marxist.

The false claim that Marxism is the endpoint of "left" (and that anyone who isn't Marxist is to the right of them) is silly and makes it hard to have useful conversation even if you don't care about downvotes.

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