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First keyboard build! (slrpnk.net)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/ergomechkeyboards
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So, after some playing around trying to figure out a preferred physical layout, I decided a Hillside 46 splayed keyboard would be about right. Thanks to Leo at Beekeeb for answering all my questions before ordering and during the build! Surface mount soldering was tricky, but everything works on the first try! I finally can use Dvorak with keycaps in the right place. Keymapping is a work in progress as I am getting used to this, and I am still trying to figure out how to get my Unicode characters to display in Linux (though for the Mac they show up fine). Now for lots of practice to build up new muscle memory, and develop a lighter touch so I don't keep inputting command characters unintentionally.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

trying to figure out a preferred physical layout

How to even do this? I can't wrap my head around what or how many to consider.
Use to work a lot with graphic tablet and belkin n52 (later nostromo) and wanted something that combine functional keyboard and left-handed pad. Got ErgodoxEZ few years ago... now I vaguely know that I want something smaller and more portable (maybe wireless and scroll wheel)... but layout? Absolutely no idea.

[–] Finite 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I'm going to try 3d printing an ergogen case with the keys extruded to check the layout before committing on my next keyboard

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I did exactly this while planning my Manuform build, and again with 3d printed keycaps in various profiles to find the best profile for its odd dished shape. I'm glad I did it as I made quite a few tweaks to it before printing the final product.

[–] shaysub 2 points 1 year ago

I printed different layouts to scale to figure out which one might work best for me

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's quite an interesting layout. Is the vertical thumbkey easy to press? And what's the right arrow you've got in both thumb clusters? Does having a letter key on the thumb feel natural?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha. I had a stock set of keycaps, which didn't have great options for my layout. I've mostly got the thumb clusters mirrored, with space(the right arrows), enter(enter/heart) and tabs on both sides (and backspace and delete mirrored). Left cluster has ESC, with right cluster having a Function layer switch on hold(the F key). I've got layer switch on hold for several of those thumb keys as well. The vertical thumbkey is not the easiest, which is why I put the tab keys there as I don't use them that often. When I clean my keymaps up I'll share an image. I feel the thumb clusters are larger than ideal for me. The board is setup to allow for Rotary encoders in those vertical thumb positions, and if I can find a suitable low profile knob I may end up swapping for a couple.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aha. That all makes perfect sense. I wouldn't personally have so much duplication, though, and get shift & modkeys on the thumbs to make easy combos, but it's fine if you want them elsewhere. Do you use function keys that often? I just realised I use them so much I forgot to setup a layer for them, but that at least seems like it could go on one of the pinky keys. And a rotary encoder there would make heaps of sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ha! I rarely use them. I also forgot a layer for them until I was reviewing what I had. I also used a minus keycode without the underscore on shift....and editing my keymaps became a bit rough. Yeah, I don't think I'm going to need the duplication, and my right and left thumbs have different resting positions, so I'll probably change things up as I'm finding I only use my right thumb for space and enter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I finally can use Dvorak with keycaps in the right place

Scrub

This doesn't even matter because some games hardcode keyboard position

Do you know how many hours it took me to figure out "T" to inspect in Baldur's Gate 3???

[–] tubbytwins 2 points 1 year ago

Nice work! It's good to see a fellow Dvorak user. The Hillside keyboards have always looked interesting to me.

Have fun on your keymap journey! Don't be afraid to experiment with different choices, especially for the thumb keys, mods, macros, combos, sticky keys, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ooh, those are pretty key caps

[–] neonred 3 points 1 year ago

MBK Legend

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you chose......violence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha. I might have to move my command/alt/shift/ctrl keys down to the thumb clusters. I mostly like the miryoku layout with them on the home row, but sloppy rolls with A-T or S-T combinations (CMD-T) keep opening new tabs, and I'm getting grumpy. No violence yet. Maybe I can fix that by increasing the time before the hold activates.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And thanks to Suraj Kurapati's own issues and config modifications (https://sunaku.github.io/home-row-mods.html) along with a lighter touch in my typing, typing is much cleaner now for me, with only very rare mods being inadvertently triggered. Very happy with how things are going. Now for a wireless version.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What does ∞ do?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's another tab key for now.