this is a repost from my old reddit post on r/fuckcars
"This video about garbage days in Amsterdam looks interesting. I sure hope it doesn't send me down any rabbit hole."
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Mine was shorter.
Move to a big city → Hate all cars and those in them (excepting delivery/work vehicles).
Heck, even free-market capitalists have a good reason to hate cars: parking minimums, exclusionary zoning, and other government policies that prop up, mandate, and subsidize car dependence are massive barriers to the invisible hand doing what it wishes. If we didn't have those in place, I think the invisible hand would be building us a significantly less car-dependent world than we currently live in.
That's how you know you've likely stumbled upon something good: when wildly different ideologies (maintaining ideological consistency) converge upon the same conclusion. Of course, the matter of ideological consistency (or lack thereof) is exactly how we get self-described libertarians defending restrictive zoning and parking minimums.
This is the angle I come at the issue from. Prohibitive zoning and perverse incentives for car use are skewing what the market would otherwise provide.
One of the few issues where free market liberals 🤝 socialists 🤝 libertarians
Took me too long to realize that I've always loved transit, but just never had the opportunity to use it
The pipeline is indeed real. Urbanism and environmentalism are what sparked my radicalization.
How does uni work in America?
In the UK we have 2 types. Campus and non campus. I went to a campus because I targeted that. Meant I and everyone I knew cycled or walked less than a mile to uni and everything was on top of each other. Also the uni was within walking distance of town centre (most people got a taxi on a night out though tbf). The other option is a non campus which could be somewhere like London and spread out all over the bloody city but you might only have to go to a couple of locations (London is transit friendly though) or somewhere like Oxford which is a non campus but the uni is built into the city fabric in a time before cars, it's everywhere but everywhere is walkable in Oxford if you live close enough to the city.
This is a long way of saying for a most people that go to uni they don't have a car and live in a "15 minute city" it's the first time seeing something work like that. Lots of people miss a lot of uni and that campus lifestyle is certainly one of them. Is that how it is in American uni or does every take their car to go to the gym/lecture/night out.