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Because currently, it seems like the only thing it's recording are downvotes. Meanwhile upvotes are completely ignored, leading to pretty much every profile I see having a negative reputation.

Also, I have a very fragile ego and my -6 reputation hurts a bit.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Currently :

  • "Boost" adds reputation. It's a kind of retweet.

  • "Downvote" removes reputation

  • "Upvote" does nothing. (edit : for reputation)

This is because previously the upvote was boost, they were switched around to be similar to other fediverse systems.

Dev mentioned in another thread that the reputation system should be changed to have up/down count instead of boost/down. But they have a lot to do right now so it might not be the most pressing issue...

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, okay that does make a lot of sense. Poor ernest must be getting swarmed by idiots like me asking for QOL changes. Thanks for the info.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

-6 wrt ego hits was funny. Go check out mine.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah I annoyed some shitlibs defending lemmy.ml and I can’t even create an account or read most posts there. I basically said we Americans are as propagandized probably as much as Red-leaning countries’ citizens.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe don't call them shitlibs?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn’t until the prior post.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Either way you're being inflammatory by pointlessly generalizing political parties.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@Maeve

Earned. Youre insufferable.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Boost should be removed entirely since it's nonsense to boost most things. E.g. even if I liked your comment here, why would I want to "retweet" that (and retweet into what even)? I just want to tell you that I liked it... with an upvote.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it's like for compatability with the microblogging side of the fediverse; so when someone on Mastodon follows you they can see what you've been "retweeting".

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, you can microblog with your kbin account, so boosting with it actually does something.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

I actually use 'boost' to save a thread or comment since there is not a save option.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As @HidingCat said it's to increase compatibility with the other app. If I'm following your Kbin account from my Mastodon one, when you boost something I'll see it pop up on my feed. I'd be in favour of keeping it but changing the label to something like "boost to fediverse" or "share with followers", or even just "share".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

"share" is obvious in what it does, and efficient in terms of using space on the website. I like it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Upvote" does nothing

Not exactly - it's technically a "favorite" button. Since I learned exactly what you typed out, I've been using it as a way to save posts I want to read later. However it is correct that it does nothing for reputation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It does, AFAIK affect the post ranking i.e. order of posts. So it's got that going for it - which is nice.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm playing with different fediverse at the moment as well as this one. That one doesn't do down votes. Didn't know it at the time when I signed up. The idea is appealing. The idea is that if you disagree with a comment, then you should interact and leave your own viewpoint. An anonymous, unthoughtful down vote does nothing that leads to a discussion. In reddit I'd see something down voted to oblivion because of a name brand mentioned but no discussion as to why people disagreed.

Thus far all of the fediverse has been positive comments 90% of the time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hear what you're saying, but as a counterpoint: when I read something really fucking stupid (like someone just trolling and posting racial slurs) the appropriate response is actually to downvote & move on without engaging. Do not feed the trolls.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That actually makes sense. Legit the reddit style voting system was often just mindless dopamine button pressing where just interacting in the group vote was enough to give you yours but not really encouraging anything beyond that. Iv been sitting here kinda missing it on squabble and now im more ok without.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't like this, I feel like upvotes should add to reputation, not boosts. But that's just my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It's also the opinion of the devs. The fact that it's boosts and not upvotes is a bug, they'll get to fixing it, it's just not top priority right at the moment (since "reputation" doesn't actually do anything and is just a small number tucked away on your profile).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you so much. I was not understanding what boost was, and have therefore been ignoring it.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's like talking to the police: the more you talk, the more you incriminate yourself. Never talk to the police.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Well i'm screwed then.. Cause i'm the worst kind of ex redditor. After like 10 years on that site I had maybe 2k post karma... 150k comment karma lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A modification of this is used when giving a deposition. You want to answer the question without giving any more information than necessary. If they ask about time you say it was after 9 in the morning. You don't say it was 9:15 because you'd just gotten your coffee and had checked your watch.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From what I understand, currently it works like this: boost = +1, downvote = -1, and upvotes do not feed into reputation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And a boost is... what exactly? I feel like that system is going to lead to pretty much everyone being close to 0 or negative. Especially if downvotes federate between instances, as I don't believe boost is even an option for lemmy instances is it?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@TooL

Upvote = I like this thread/post
Boost = everyone following me, here is a thing I think you should see

-ish. That's my understanding at the moment anyway

@skepickle

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

@JollyRoberts So it's the equivalent of a retweet

@skepickle @TooL

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I guess I didn't know there was a following mechanism here. Good to know, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't know, I will boost your comment and see what happens... I hope it doesn't open a webcam discussion where we see each others, that would be awkward.

Edit: what is this madness? I see a +1 but with no way to remove it! It's forever. Be cautious!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The funniest part is my reputation actually went down to -7 now so.. I have no idea if boosting it even did anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Clicking on "boost" again should remove the boost. At least that works for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Liar! I did it and now he has 2 boosts!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Even boosting your own comments seems to increase your reputation

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, currently nothing stops a person from flooding self-boosted low-effort posts to rapidly raise their (apparent) reputation.

A single user can counter that 1-for-1 by downvoting every instance of it happening, but as "reduces" are visible the system gamer can retaliate in kind.

Two users (or one with two burner e-mails) in fact working together can currently destroy any user's points quite quickly beyond their ability to counter with self-boosts even if they wanted to.

Irrelevant, as reputation doesn't seem to do anything and we all know the system currently is flawed, but one feels we should not be able to affect our own, nor that of other users past a certain amount.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Unexpected Kbin W

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My reputation is 25 but I don’t really know why.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Seems like you posted or commented something that got boosted/"retweeted" at least 25 times then.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Good question. I'm -6, too (and should be positive).

Maybe it's hardcoded? 😁

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I've heard it's going to be revised so I'm not paying attention to it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Mine’s negative too, I just assumed I made some kind of unseen, powerful enemy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Also, I have a very fragile ego and my -6 reputation hurts a bit.

Good news! At the moment, reputation points are strictly calculated based on live data. In other words, if you delete the downvoted content, the negative points disappear.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You got +2 as of the timing of this comment, yay!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I like the idea of spending upvotes to downvote

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