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The recent news and complaints about LMG are concerning and do need to be addressed, and if we are to believe the statements of LMG, they are. They hired a third party investigator (whatever that means) and they halted all production on their company, in order to work on their methods.

While I don’t take everything they do at face value, I do think that those are the right steps to solving their issues (besides maybe going to the police about the sexual harassment allegations, but I’m also not sure they can without Madison filling a complaint).

The main criticisms I’ve heard from people is how they joke around about sponsors and shove their merch and FP down our throats in an apology video. While it is in bad taste, I don’t understand why people are surprised, have you been paying attention at all?

You see, LMG presented itself as a media corporation from day one. They were always profit oriented and their goal was always to make money. They have two sponsor reads, one floatplane ad and at least two lttstore.com mentions in every single video. Linus clearly states whenever he can that he’s here for the money and nothing else. He also says that he believes that maintaining trust with his audience is the way to make more money, so our interests align, but he really states that journalistic standards and accurate reporting are not his motivations, money is.

This along with the statements about wage discussions and Linus’s disdain from workers unions, and the fact that they don’t use twitch bits or superchats but the leave them open, really shows how the company thinks and operates.

So I don’t think the criticism is well placed, they were upfront about their intentions and you should have known what company you’re following.

As for their handling of the recent news, there is no way of knowing what will happen. It seems like they want to do the right thing but we can’t know until they finish the process.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Counter point - just because they said "they're in it for the money", it doesn't make it right. If anything, it makes it worse because they're putting out a bad product.

Criticism comes from the circumstances that LMG found themselves in. Most people aren't surprised, just disappointed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There is distinction between "we are in it for money" and "we are in it for money at expense of correct information and our workers"

You should have known what company you’re following.

Issue is that most people didn't. They watch videos, laugh and move on.

It seems like they want to do the right thing.

They had numerous opportunities to do the right thing. They chose to ignore them or made compromises.

All of the problems didn't arise in a month, they were cultivating for years. Small issues get overlooked and keep piling up into one big dumpster fire. They should've dealt with them long ago without drama and outside critique. But I guess money is more important to Linus than his own company.

[–] EatBorekYouWreck -3 points 10 months ago

They watch videos, laugh and move on.

Thats exactly what you’re supposed to do now imho. They’ve been outed for inconsistent or incorrect data, so the only thing you need to take from this channel is the entertainment (if you find it).

Just think of them as you think of Disney or EA, they are a media entertainment corporation, both can be thought of as actually evil in the name of profits. But I really like Jedi Fallen Order and I also kind like Marvel movies (but not as much as I used to), so I watch and play them.

I also really like the wan show and the silly Jake+Linus videos, so I’ll keep watching them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

besides maybe going to the police about the sexual harassment allegations, but I’m also not sure they can without Madison filling a complaint

How exactly do you think that would work?

"Hi police, an ex-employee said on social media that she was sexually assaulted but didn't give any details or say by who"

What good would that do for them?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I think that's the point of a third party investigator, collect information to deliver in a usable way that they can act upon.

Whether they'll procede correctly to that is to be seen, I just don't like how people are bloodthirsty more than they are wanting justice and corrections, that will certainly color their reaction to whatever move they end up making.

Before anyone jumps at my throat, if they fall, I'm okay with it, though losing the promise of the lab is disappointing.

[–] thethirdobject 7 points 10 months ago

A lot of people have a strong opinions about people they know only from watching every other day. There are obviously issues at ltt, just like in any companies, but attacking them endlessly isn't helping anyone, nor is blindly defending them. They are human, they can make mistakes, they can correct them, they can be held accountable, and that's what they seem to be in the process of doing. Things need to change at ltt and it's a shame it had to come to this, but people anonymously jumping on the bandwagon pointing fingers seem detestable.