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[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Privacy on a non-degoogled Android device is non existent. Just because only Google gets to munch on your data doesn't equal privacy.

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[–] thorbot 84 points 1 year ago (21 children)

This meme is brought to you by someone who has no clue what iOS can do.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm patiently waiting for my 4th Pixel 5A RMA since they love frying motherboards outta nowhere but damn once you get grapheneos going it really is something else

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For wifi, I was pleasantly surprised that I could set a custom DNS on iOS while still using DHCP for other settings. Can only set DNS on Android if I use manual IP (or just use Wireguard).

Edit: not true, Android can have custom DNS with DHCP, see below.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The operating system that Google created to collect your data is secure? Not unless you get rid of all the Google services.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't confuse privacy and security. Android is a very secure system.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Android is AOSP, it has no Google at all. Don't confuse OEM ROMs and Android Open Source Project. As someone with GrapheneOS I can only laugh when someone calls iOS more private

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't confuse anything. All flavours of Android are secure systems, but that doesn't mean they're all private.

I definitely agree with you that Graphene is more private than iOS, which is probably more private than most OEM Android systems out there.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

true, but most think of oem roms when they hear android

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I hear Android, I think of Android. And that word encompasses everything imo. That's how most people use the word in my experience.

If someone means AOSP specifically, they'll say AOSP

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[–] MooseBoys 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Android is a very secure system

Except for the ridiculously powerful permissions you need to give most system-type apps in order for them to function (i.e. read and paint over all screen content) because the accessibility APIs are shit, and password manager APIs too fragmented to be useful.

Sometimes the policy of “you will use our API and you will be happy” is actually beneficial for users.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You can't even install DNS66 from the play store because Google bans apps that block ads. This meme is way off the mark and I'm and android fanboy.

[–] Asudox 18 points 1 year ago

If you are a android user that thinks the only source of apps is google play store, you aren't a real android user

[–] Phantom3805 15 points 1 year ago

The meme didn't mention the play store, anyone actually concerned with this stuff likely also is savvy enough to install apps without the play store.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

You can still install it from fdroid or github. And there's an alternative called PersonalDNSFilter if you really wanted an app from the play store.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You can get it off f-droid

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The whiplash between posts on Lemmy is so great.

Everyone seems to hate google and how invasive they are while simultaneously simping for google’s mobile OS

This shit is so stupid.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

If one person believes one thing and another person believes the opposite, that doesn't mean they're hypocrites. That means there isn't a consensus. Besides, android can be better than iOS and deserving of criticism at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Or maybe people hate Google ruining the internet AND realise that iOS is still much worse than Android? The two things are in no way mutually exclusive unless you view the world as a tribal binary.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Android can be whatever a dedicated community wants it to be, since it's open source at its AOSP core.

I love AOSP, but I hate what Google does with it. Or most other manufacturers, for that matter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Chromium is open source, too, but so many projects putting all their eggs in the same basket gives Google carte blanche to push any standard they want as a new de-facto standard before the rest of us can decide on whether it's ready or needs changes or is just bad.

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[–] Nonononoki 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Regular Android < iOS < Custom ROM

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stock android ain't to bad

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It’s almost impossible to buy a phone with plain android on it. Google’s version on the pixel is nice to use, but a privacy nightmare

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Button to disable all sensors? Which phone has this?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

And how can we be sure it's doing what it says? It's software, on most phones you don't control software that is running above apps layer.

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