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Update 1:

This video is spread by "Z-war correspondents". It shows Major Tomov, whom the Rashists were looking for several days. Now he is in Ukrainian captivity, where he is giving up the positions of his subordinates.

On August 9, "Z-war correspondents" claimed that the Ukrainian military had raided the left bank of the Dnipro River, probably advancing 800 meters deep. The Russians concealed this operation, denied it, and then issued that they had sunk all the boats. As a result, Major Tomov and at least 17 other men from his group disappeared near the village of Kozachi Laheri, as the Rashists wrote. Russian propaganda also tried to cover up the disappearance of the reconnaissance group, but something went wrong.

https://t.me/pravdaGerashchenko_en

Update 2:

https://files.catbox.moe/yjcs85.mp4

Update 3:

https://files.catbox.moe/mqeay6.mp4

Interview/interrogation with Major Tomov, unit commander of the 1822 batallion who got captured in Kozachi Laheri. He talks about losses, about the state of his unit (extreme low morale and lots of defectors) and combat capabilities. He doesn't blame himself for being captured.

"There are lots of combat losses in our batallion, as of August 6 we approached 25%."

Major Tomov is reportedly very willing to share classified information.

https://t.me/noel_reports

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel a bit like this is something to share after the fact, not while he remains useful in any capacity.

[–] Alteon 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, like....what about Tomov's family? I get wanting to post this, but any Russians that see this will now know that if they get captured, their "assistance" will be put on the internet in full display for the world to see.

Can any one see how that might be a problem?

[–] Xanthrax 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think many of the Russians who surrendered, are being welcomed back home in general. Fair point, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think there is a big difference between "not being welcomed back" and what might happen to "the family of a traitor", though.

[–] Relo 1 points 1 year ago

I think for those russians who want to end this was asap he might be a hero.

[–] dlok 1 points 1 year ago

I guess it's better than a video of them being executed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For them it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fair, but usually I think the thought process is closer to "surrender, or get shot in the head" so the risk of getting exiled by your countrymen or being shamed online is kind of secondary

I can only imagine what is waiting behind that camera if he decides not to cooperate

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ground control to Major Tomov

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why is this video posted twice, except this one has the watermark blurred out?

[–] ilmagico -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I want Ukraine to win, but this is against the geneva convention for treatment of POWs.

Edit: see my reply below for details on exactly what is being violated.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why? It's a healthy looking guy highlighting things on a map.

[–] ilmagico -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/geneva-convention-relative-treatment-prisoners-war

Article 17:

Every prisoner of war, when questioned on the subject, is bound to give only his surname, first names and rank, date of birth, and army, regimental, personal or serial number, or failing this, equivalent information.

[...]

No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion, may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them information of any kind whatever. Prisoners of war who refuse to answer may not be threatened, insulted, or exposed to any unpleasant or disadvantageous treatment of any kind.

I doubt he gave away this information willingly.

Article 14:

Prisoners of war are entitled in all circumstances to respect for their persons and their honour.

Coercing POWs to give away positions of their troops seems to be humiliating to me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok so you're just assuming things to fit your perspective or what?

[–] ilmagico 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What am I assuming, that he's not willing? No, I watched the video. His body language doesn't look like that of someone who's willing, and neither the way the captors are talking to him.

Either way, even if he's "willing", it's probably cause he's afraid not to. You cannot assume a POW to have a clear mind to make "free will" decisions.

Yes, the Russians are very likely doing the same or worse, so I understand ... but it's still a violation.

Ah, and my perspective is that Ukraine has has the right to defend themselves and take back their territory, but should do so according to international laws of war.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

When you first posted about this there was only a picture of him, so yeah that's a big assumption based just on that.

But otherwise fair enough, I appreciate your perspective and info.