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Personally, I want nothing to do with them and I'm not willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. I moved to the Fediverse to get away from all these corpos.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Makes more sense for Meta to create their own "Metaverse" than join an open-source network.

Instagram and Facebook already communicate, it won't be too difficult to include WhatsApp into that mix.

If they buy something like Mastodon, it would make better business sense to cut it off from the Federation and sync it with Meta's products instead.

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[–] candyman337 6 points 2 years ago

It probably won't effect how the fediverse runs, but there may be some growing pains with trolls from meta.

I suspect it will cause a rapid development in moderation tools for lemmy

[–] MiddleWeigh 6 points 2 years ago

Nope. Money will buy blood.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I didn’t know they’d joined. Do you have a source for this?

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[–] Strolleypoley 5 points 2 years ago

Screw meta.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

For myself, I'm not a fan either. But I think it could be a very good thing for the fediverse (still not a fan of that word)


which, as I understand it, is all about choice: the ability to easily access content across the fediverse, with the ability to ignore it just as easily.

If it ends up breeding toxicity, then I'll block any subs, and possibly the whole instance†. And if it gets really bad, I'll just find a lemmy/mastodon/whatever instance that has defederated from them.

† Sounds like this maybe isn't possible yet, but is being looked at https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2397

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[–] Grant 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I did my senior college paper on the fuckery that Facebook and Meta has caused and how harmful their data collection has been to American society. I will stop using any services that are bought up by Fuckerberg.

I do not want them in the fediverse and will not tolerate them for a second. The moment they form an instance is the moment I block their instance.

Fuck. Meta.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mind sharing the TL;DR about your paper?

[–] Grant 3 points 2 years ago

They handed data to bad actors who then targeted groups of citizens down to groups of 10 people on social media with hypertargeted "dark ads". These ads were only shown once and couldn't be found again.

This targeting was focused at all groups, all races/ages/demographics/political leaning but decently increased towards the green party candidate for a good second towards the end of the election. It was mainly positive towards Trump but focused heavily on all candidates to sow division.

In spending, if I remember correctly, Clinton spent like 8mil on social media campaigns. Trump spent something like 180mil.

Facebook facilitated and was complicit in all of this. They collected the data of how long we looked at things, where our cursors were, who we communicated with, etc. They benefited from all of this through the ads.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I view them embracing federation as a good thing.

I also view it as important for the instances I wish to follow to never federate with them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

But is it even possible for a mega corporation to embrace federation? Isn't that essentially a contradiction in terms?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

It's the kind of embrace a boa constrictor wants to have with a rabbit. The answer always needs to be no.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Exactly. Absolutely anyone can set up an instance.

Want your own Instagram type system? Roll out a Pixelfed server. Want your own Lemmy.

The #Fediverse is big. Very big. Probably up into tens of thousands of servers. No company could take it over, which is by design.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Google runs gmail, which like all email service providers is basically federated with all other email service providers. Hasn't stopped smaller email providers from continuing to chug along just fine.

To be clear, though, that's a best case scenario. It's definitely possible Meta could try to warp the Fediverse so that it kills all instances other than their own. We'll have to be vigilant and proactive to make sure that doesn't happen here.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can you personally block content from specified instances, for your own user? That would do it for me just fine.

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[–] guyman 3 points 2 years ago

I feel like it's their choice if they want to host an instance.

[–] nostalgicgamerz 3 points 2 years ago

Stay the fuck away

[–] ComradeMiao 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

It's fine and good. Normalize federation

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