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Is it a good (probably temporary) way to get content in Lemmy?

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't have a problem with it. Although, I do think "sublemmy" is a stupid word, and we should just say "community".

In short, copying Reddit's content is fine. Copying Reddit's terminology is silly.

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[–] GONADS125 5 points 1 year ago

I wholeheartedly agree.. I would like to take a step away from the immaturity level that has taken over reddit. Communities sounds better. And more clear terminology makes Lemmy more approachable for new users.

[–] Kurumatron 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's better to have our own terminologies and maybe copy some terminologies from reddit, like upvotes and downvotes. But to me, sublemmy sounds awful. Calling it community is better and sounds more serious

[–] dystop 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I created [email protected] a few days ago. Now it has >4k subscribers. I credit that to my meticulous reposting of content from other places (90% from /r/maliciousompliance, 10% from elsewhere). It took a bit of effort but now people are posting their OC.

A site like this needs to reach critical mass to be self-sustaining. I see a lot of new communities with 0-1 posts from the mod. That’s not nearly enough to get people engaged - users are going to see that it’s a ghost town and leave. Reposts are a temporary measure to get past the chicken-and-egg problem of "there's nothing here so people aren't visiting" and "people aren't visiting so they aren't posting stuff".

Reddit itself exists on reposts. As a (ex-)Redditor of 12 years, I've seen countless reposts. Ideally, reposts make up a small percentage of the content, but given the small nature of this universe, I'd personally encourage and advocate reposting of content from elsewhere to kickstart discussion.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

This is absolutely the case. Communities need content to aggregate around before the community itself grows to a point where it can become content in its own right.

Reddit itself launched with the founders operating sockpuppet accounts to post content and have conversations, just so that it looked like there was already a community to join and activity happening when early adopters showed up.

[–] zephyr 6 points 1 year ago

Well said. A good mod (especially in these times) needs to take care of his sub. And that thing motivates the sub users.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Engagement is what makes or breaks a social media platform, especially in it's early days.

Right now, anything that boosts engagement is 100% good IMO. that will help retain users and attract more.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly yes I think it makes sense to do this, as long as the content itself isn't hosted on reddit. It would be cool if somebody could make a bot for mods to enable this in their communities to specify subs to pull posts from and how often.

[–] Urist 6 points 1 year ago

It's something that certain subs should 100% do, especially those based on image memes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I created a bot like this. https://github.com/daniel-lxs/BotIt
It's intended for links and I wouldn't encourage using it for anything else, as you said I think the best idea is to crosspost content that isn't on reddit on the first place, and just use reddit as a way to measure how engaging is the post.
This is so far a work in progress so expect bugs. But in my opinion, the bot is usable in this stage.

Edit: I might add multiple subreddit and magazine/community support, so you could specify a map and pull from many places to post in many places, stay tuned.

[–] dystop 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

thanks! I'm on lemmy but just saw /m/BotIt on kbin yesterday, and I assume you're the main party behind that. Admirable work, I'm going to give it a try some time!^___^

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, and also @klin who has helped a lot.
Let me know if you have questions, however it should be fairly easy to use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's cool thanks I might try setting that up. Could always just setup multiple scripts for each sub to comm mapping.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For now that's totally possible. Let me know if you have any questions or problems

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

It's a good idea but honestly I am already enjoying the lemmy-unique content a lot more.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reddit was all about reposting content. Whether it was from news sites or twitter, it was full of it. There's no reason why that couldn't be done here. Especially in early days.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's normal, Reddit (and Lemmy and kbin) is link aggregrator.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I think it could be worth for the more news related subs to maybe use bots that pull at least the more upvoted submissions until they've got a more solid user base that submits more stuff themselves. Reposting the same old Reddit reposts from 15 years ago however I think is not worth it.

[–] ThatGuy 8 points 1 year ago

I think its good even if lemmy becomes huge, the less we have to look into those other sites to get info, the better.

And it helping the growth of the communities just makes it better. I hope people bring stuff from the other subreddits too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm of two minds about it. On one hand it would give Lemmy users more content to interact with which is good, on the other you're directing to where we just came from and increasing engagement there which is bad. So I'm on the fence. If someone wants to do it it's worth the experiment IMO, but I'm largely not going to be clicking that Reddit link unless its compelling. If it's linked to an external site aside from reddit I'm all for it though, so long as it doesn't get out of hand.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that the situation being described isn't linking to Reddit, but linking to what Reddit is linking to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If that will end up being the case I'm all for it. Just so long as it's not a 1:1 copy with discussion posts and all. At least until lemmy gets bigger

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The only option for me should be taking posts content and bringing it here without the Reddit link, only mentioning it comes from there and giving credits to the OP, I won't open Reddit links.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Agree completely. Doing something like c/[email protected] would be an almost perfect implementation. They might already have a bot posting that content TBH.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's necessary for some important information and guides that would otherwise be destroyed on Reddit, we have to bring these informative posts and guides here (only the content, giving credits to the OP, no direct links to Reddit).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It’s good we need more content which will drive more users

[–] WhoRoger 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't like reposting content from Reddit unless it's suuuuuper good and relevant.

Especially if it's images with that shitty Reddit banner.

Like if the times are really slow, then a repost to keep the mood up is fine, but casually/regularly, I think that's meh.

Also, there are communities specialized in reposting/mirroring Reddit subs, so if that's what you want, just go there?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is the philosophy in the Fediverse not to rely upon upvoting/downvoting to determine quality of content?

Just because something has been posted on Reddit doesn’t mean the bar for posting it here should be higher.

[–] WhoRoger 1 points 1 year ago

It's more about reposting in general, not just from Reddit specifically. But most communities here are literally clones or continuations of Reddit subs, so comparison to Reddit simply always pops up. Also that's what the question was.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm already happy with the amount of content here and actually a bit lost with all the variety of content, instances, new communities, links. No great need to look back. But if you need to find equivalent communities, lookie here: https://sub.rehab/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Such an old internet vibe. When people created websites just for specific things like subs.rehab or that redditdark. Amazing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

No different than the bots that pull news from Twitter and repost it on Mastodon (there's a whole instance press.coop that hosts them), I don't see much of a problem. I'd prefer a bot do it as it limits how much traffic it gives to reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If they are the owners i didn't see any problem.

[–] halo5 2 points 1 year ago

It signifies an intent to move to Lemmy by former Reddit users, so I have no problem with that...

[–] mwalker789 2 points 1 year ago

Nothing. And then you mirror the video and repost it, just like reddit did

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I only do it in the other direction; cross post lemmy originals to the sinking ship.

Of course, when the lemmy post links to a video or article, the reddirt post will only link to the lemmy post and not directly to the content.

It's a way of helping others abandon ship, which indirectly adds content for us in the long run.

[–] wason 2 points 1 year ago

There are some subreddits considered "oficial" that didn't close and are working as usual. Maybe get content from those at least temporarily?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean Reddit itself started as a content aggregator. It wasn't until it had built up enough of a userbase that it started creating its own content.

But it definitely feels a bit weird to be so focused on another site's content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

https://kbin.social/m/BotIt is a bot that will do this for you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If it's contained to a specific instance like with Lemmit, I think it's fine.

It might still be confusing though, because comments on Lemmy obviously can't be synced back to Reddit, so interactions with Reddit users would be very one-sided.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@zephyr

It's more than OK for me.

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