I don’t see nord on this list. Can someone tell me why the others listed are better?
this post was submitted on 06 Aug 2023
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I also use Nord. I think it's fine, but self-hosted and open would be better (since you for SURE know what data is passing through and what is happening with it). With Nord it's like a "trust me bro" black box.
That said, I trust Nord enough for my needs. I don't do anything too secretive on the VPN and frankly I think the 80/20 is in favor of just using Nord over self-hosting (I don't really have time for that).
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Selfhosted DigitalOcean VPS with SOCKS 5 SSH tunnelling for masking my home IP when web browsing and OVH VPS with OpenVPN server for masking my home IP for my local seedbox server. I don't really need commercial VPNs since I only really need basic functionality to mask my IP and I don't really need a shared service to do that.
YMMV, of course.
Did you care about traces that you left behind and can be linked directly to you? Is a nice setup but if you pay DigitalOcean VPS with PayPal for example or credit card all your efforts to hide your real IP that is linked to you is useless. I don't know if this is a major concern to you, of course.
Yeah, I'm aware it's dedicated and not shared, and there's billing info etc. It's just so that websites, particularly forums etc cannot have my home IP just like that. It's an additional layer of protection.
Got Express right before they sold. Going to swap very soon! Mainly looking at proton for the swap
Proton doesn't have a good privacy record a few reasons including this
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Excuse me for my lack of understanding, but why are there so many people looking to hide their traffic from their ISP with a VPN? Isn't HTTPS enough? Are you afraid of ISPs resorting to DPI or MiM to spy on their users? Is customer protection so weak in the US that ISPs are free to spy on their customers using aforementioned techniques?
Edit: I just realized that I left out people leaving under authoritarian regimes, for whom VPNs are unfortunately required to evade their government.
Because HTTPS protects only things you do on the site. ISP still knows which sites you connect to. Which YouTube video you are watching to. etc. F.E. in Russia ISP's have to keep logs of users interactions for half of year and give it to government when they need them.
ISP still knows which sites you connect to.
Yes, because they know the IPs your packets go to, but if there are multiple websites behind a single IP they won't know which one (unless you use your ISP DNS server, which you should probably not)
Which YouTube video you are watching to. etc.
No, because the URL is contained within the HTTP packets which are encrypted with SSL (the S in HTTPS), so unless the ISP does MiM, they cannot know which URL you are visiting.
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I trust my ISP more than a random VPN provider. I use HTTPS for everything anyways.
Why do you trust some random VPN provider in a different country more than your local ISP?
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I used to have Mullvad but it recently disabled portforwarding-support. Now I ditched it in favor of Proton since I already had a Proton subscription running. I am still looking out for a VPN that supports portforwarding though, in a way that a non-tech-savvy person like myself can run it on Linux. No idea where and how to do that now.
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I use adguard VPN. I got 5 years for really cheap and it integrates well with adguard DNS blocking on my phone.
ProtonVPN, but I've been thinking of switching to Mullvad or maybe PIA(because of price).
VyprVPN. I'm late to the party, but I've spoken to the founder a couple of occasions, he seemed like a guy that really just wants to provide no nonsense VPN. Its not the best or fastest service, and I don't need VPN for everything, but for whatever I need, it's cheap and it's privacy friendly.
IVPN initially because it is very privacy focused but now I swapped to Nord because it's basically free if you get cashback offers and it seems to bypass more region restrictions for video streaming etc.
I cant speak for what nord actually offers but i will never use them cause the marketing they did was very agressive and very missleading. Also leaks.
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