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An interesting, but controversial take on DEI/EDI policy, particularly in a curriculum. My feeling is that the author misses and misunderstands some of the important work necessary in this area.

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[–] RQG 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Inclusivity and diversity is part of life. As long as math is part of life I'd say yes. It shouldn't be a main topic. But it should be a natural part of the math problems and examples we look at.

[–] 2tone 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed. I think the author's concern is about its involvement in the actual Math curriculum, which has some merit, but I find it a short-sighted perspective. I don't think anyone is suggesting that Math concepts and rules are to be changed as a consequence of DEI considerations, rather that DEI discussions become part of the Math conversation, which I feel is perfectly appropriate

[–] Solumbran 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I couldn't even finish reading as the article was too full of bullshit.

"This random twitter person said something stupid, let me pretend this is a common opinion that I will now use as an argument"

"People disagree, so there's not point in trying to be inclusive as some people will not like it"

Oh and also "zero-tolerance against micro-aggressions" is, according to the author, nothing less than authoritarianism.

This article is a pile of crap written by someone that I assume doesn't have an opinion that I share, value nor respect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually he describes stuff that random persons on twitter write as fringe opinions.

Ask a random person on the street what the definition of microaggressions is... Surely 90+% will not be able to answer this, regardless if they are part of a minority or not. This is elitist semantics coming from student and activist circles who are out of touch with many peoples's day to day struggles.

What should that even be: "zero tolerance against microaggressions"? As a math lecturer, I'd just roll my eyes if I got such instructions.

So since you misrepresent the content of the article so thoroughly without even having read it (!) and instead let your emotions take care of the argument ("I'm not gonna read this piece of crap since I have a different opinion")...

Could it be that you are one of these people with fringe opinions? :D

[–] Solumbran 1 points 1 year ago

But he mentions it, and uses it as a base. And "fringe" can mean a single person, or a few hundreds of thousands. This is intentionally vague and misleading.

Authoritarianism is not about how many people understand a word.

Rolling your eyes is not the same as making a weird discriminatory and anti-diversity blog post.

And I stopped when I saw that each paragraph contained a mix of fallacies and intolerance, because I don't see the point of inflicting more to myself. My critic stands.

[–] jesterraiin 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Diversity and inclusion doesn’t belong in the maths curriculum"

I agree. These qualities play so little role within the context of math, that they may as well never be mentioned at all.

Show me your skills and achievements first.