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Lemmy.world users: Notice who posted this?

Yes, its a https://beehaw.org user, posting to [email protected].

Despite the defederation, we still get beehaw.org users posts and comments. We just got to go through 3rd party services now (such as lemmy.ml) to talk or interact with beehaw.org users.

We're cutoff, but not really. I think this post deserves a "Best of" since its one of the clearest examples of how Defederation works in practice. Its not as bad as #RedditBlackout users seem to think it is.

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[–] kadu 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I could be very much mistaken, but aren't we interacting with a ghost version of the Beehaw community and posts? As in, we might indeed see the content, but what we write never ends up showing up on their instance

[–] dragontamer 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes. But this is being hosted on the lemmy.ml server, which Beehaw.org remains federated with. And lemmy.world remains federated with lemmy.ml.

This means that lemmy.ml serves as our middle-man in this particular discussion. As long as we're on neutral grounds, we can talk and interact with Beehaw.org users. We're not as fully cut off as #RedditBlackout users think!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

actually beehaw users can't see your comments/replies. only you can see theirs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

that's a beehaw user posting to lemmy.ml. beehaw didn't defederate from lemmy.ml, so you can see their posts on lemmy.ml.

Edit: notably beehaw can't see lemmy.world users posting to lemmy.ml, so they can't see your comments/replies/threads/etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

isnt this post from before the defederation happened?

[–] dragontamer 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Hmm... Okay, further testing required.

https://lemmy.world/post/211479

https://beehaw.org/post/599969

https://lemmy.ml/post/1308105

Looks like my post is visible from lemmy.world, and lemmy.ml. However, it is not appearing on Beehaw.org. Very interesting.


I'm pretty sure we here at lemmy.world will continue to get posts from [email protected]. But they won't be able to see our posts or discussions. But everyone else (who still has federated with lemmy.world) can see us and talk with us still.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

posts from before defederation will still be visible, in the same way that posts from before federation will not

[–] dragontamer 1 points 2 years ago

The post I linked is from Saturday June 17th, long after the defederation. That's why I chose that post, because its after defederation.

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