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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/27241241

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dont even need full blown communism, just a world without corporations...that would be amazing

[–] madeinthebackseat -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Corporations are whatever we define them to be.

They're only legal structures which we could construct to be beneficial, or as we see in modern times, others could mold to rob society of greater good.

The problem isn't corporations, the problem is humans don't have the consistent will to build societies that prevent and punish greed.

[–] stopdropandprole 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

you do understand how circular and self defeating your analysis is, right?

you say the problem is not punishing greed. okay. let's follow your last sentence to it's logical conclusion.... how exactly (in today's corporate controlled society) would we punish greed? keeping in mind, greed at the level of corporations is inarguably the single most salient and damaging type of greed.

could the answer have anything to do with say, corporations?

[–] madeinthebackseat 1 points 1 day ago

My claim is it isn't constructive to scream about "corporations" without actively understanding the core issues. Corporations are human constructs governed by a set of laws within whatever locality they exist.

We have allowed corporations to become overly powerful and greedy by letting our elected officials effectively accept bribes in the form of so-called election finance. This has led to regulatory capture by corporations.

My point is corporations are whatever we allow them to be, and after generations of allowing them to become monopolistic behemoths, we either need to find a way to reign in their power or we'll be run over.

If you want to reign in corporations, you have to start by changing the systems that govern them. Screaming that they're greedy is a fools errand, they're obviously greedy in the current form. We need to take action and actually hold people accountable.

[–] MuskyMelon 1 points 1 day ago

That's what China does to its corporations. It's called social capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Or itself destructs as it abuses it citizens too much so they revolt.

If we ever get real communism and not that tankie shit maybe it would last.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We'll never get real communism because humans are awful and will eventually corrupt any system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Basically fucked either way. Too bad for us

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Anarchism tends to be significantly more vulnerable to CIA-backed death squads than tankie regimes, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 28 minutes ago

Anarchists biggest threat has always been tankies. Biggest backstabbers around.

[–] Iceman 3 points 1 day ago

It's a sad fact that the peacefull socialist end up in massgraves

[–] PugJesus 3 points 1 day ago

I can't believe the CIA was behind all of those Soviet regimes which brutally destroyed workers' democracy 😔