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Not because DDG got better, but just because google got worse.

google is still better for site-specific searches, and google scholar still has minimal AI slop

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I do not think so in my experience. I'm a software developer and a lot of my job is searching solutions to problems. Every year or two I'll try DDG because I love the concept but it never works as well for me. Putting the same search query into Google yeilds actual results for me more often than DDG does.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have the same situation. DDG has a feature where you can write "!g query" and search for "query" on Google. I use that as a fallback whenever DDG fails to yield good results - it's super easy!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

ive been using it consistently for the past few years. it works well for me, but sometimes ill go to other engines just to see what they come up with, or when results are lacking. sometimes they are better, sometimes they are worse.

meaning ddg is probably good enough nowadays, at least for me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You probably already know this, but you can use search "bangs" to search other websites from ddg.

For example, to search google, you would put !g or !google at the start of your search.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

It’s just as good as 2008 google, which is all I want.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

I've been using DDG since 2016 and never felt it was worse in terms of "search quality" than Google.

Especially nowadays I hear friends whine near weekly about Google, but it's still somehow "better than DDG".

Honestly people just make excuses not to change what they're use to. Even if what they're used to has changed around them for the worse.

My only real complain I have is I wish 'search by date range' was less finicky use and also worked in the image tab like it does in Google images.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't you mean DuckDuckBing ?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I feel like its better than google. I switched to DDG a couple years ago. 6 months ago I did a trial run with a self hosted search that only used google as a back end, the results felt like garbage

[–] miridius 2 points 2 days ago

That's a low bar, google sucks now

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I use QWANT but I have the same feeling tbh. Or maybe Google search has been worsening I'm not too sure..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Good enough for me, although there are times I need to use google.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (20 children)

You seriously can't type whatever dae means?

[–] NikkiDimes 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

DAE is a fairly common acronym on online forums, often used in titles such as these. You could have used Google (or DuckDuckGo) to learn its meaning 😊

It's simply "does anyone else."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I did, my comment stands

It's clearly not that common.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Never saw that abbreviation before, but my assumption is it's "does anyone else" since I can't think of anything else that'd make sense in this context

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, that's accurate. My point is that typing that out isn't hard and opens the post up to all who know English.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I’ve been online for almost thirty years and have never - knowingly - seen β€œdae” as an abbreviation.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Not really. If you focus purely on just searching, yeah DDG is decent. But, I find its maps inferior and trying to find answers to some questions can get tedious. DDG I guess is just for people who want guilt-free searching.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (6 children)

ddg maps is just a no-frills apple maps.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Compared to a few years ago, it’s better. Some websites still aren’t indexed, and even by entering their name exactly, they don’t show. Google doesn’t have this problem.

Brave search is also pretty good

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Yes, I switched back in 2023 and noticed it was already better than google.

All major search engines feel like they're either filled with AI slop results, or just only returning major corporations' sites anymore, though. DDG just falls into the latter, while Google is mostly the former.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I’ve been using DDG exclusively for something like 8 years. It works great for regular text search and I use bing for image searches. I really don’t understand the reluctance of people to switch to it. To me, Google has been borderline unusable garbage for a long time.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Naw. I use Kagi (paid) now, and get much better search results.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I like DDG a lot more, especially because of the bang shortcuts. But I transitioned recently to Qwant. It also has bang shortcuts and is hosted in Europe.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Duckduckgo mostly uses Bing for its search results. It also uses yahoo, yandex, and it's own crawler, but for the most part you're getting Bing.

So what you really want to know is if Bing is just as good as Google. If you think it is, you should definitely use ddg because they're the least intrusive.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

As a general purpose search engine yeah it's just as good. Google has some nice extra features which aren't too important (for example if you search UFC it shows full fight card info and results on the search page).

Where it falls behind is for more "power user " type work. I only use Google at work as it makes finding very specific results with keywords and date ranges on certain sites etc much easier.

Nowadays I use Qwant though to boycott us. It's much slower but still does the job for day to day use.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've switched away from DDG after many years of use. I have gone to Ghostery Private search. It seems to be better for my search results with a lot less garbage mixed in.

[–] spacemanspiffy 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, mostly, except that programming related searches have really gone downhill in DDG for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's my primary but Google unfortunately is often a fallback. And Google is tracking the shit out of us these days. Certain obscure searches don't work well on DDG, sad to say.

[–] lucg 7 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Eyeing the replies, does not one other person here get results constantly flooded with content farms? They've gotten significantly worse

But then, I don't use Google so maybe this is still better than Google Search?

It started maybe three years ago, around the same time as LLMs became usable for this, but I'm pretty sure >50% are human-written still. Probably the LLM generates the structure (saves any time they'd have to spend coming up with plausible-sounding texts) and someone from a low-income country is contracted to make it look more legit

Of course, queries for topics that have a Wikipedia page get Wikipedia first, recipes get tons of big-name recipe sites, products get stores. But when there's no obvious market around a topic, 3~4 out of 5 results are content farms pretending to have useful information to show unwary visitors ads

(As an alternative, I still have to try Kagi properly. It seemed on par with DDG when I did a few searches last year, but then their payment processor refused me trying to load my account, support was unhelpful, and I've gotten sidetracked since)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I found Qwant to be a bit better, but yeah. Google got so much worse over last few years

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

I really tried, I set duckduckgo as the default for my second browser (I use it a lot) to slowly get used to it, but every time results are so bad I get mad and switch to Google especially for images

[–] JackLSauce 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"just as good"? No, I feel it is (and has been for years) vastly superior but I mostly use it to find documentation or Stack Overflow answers so consistent UI and concise summaries are high priority to me. Take that as you will

I don't think anybody can dethrone Google Maps yet but that's another story

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[–] ceenote 21 points 4 days ago (6 children)

My thought always was that DDG was good to set as my default, and if I'm not happy with the results then it's not a big deal to use Google once in awhile.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (8 children)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

...........Oh, sorry.

Hell no. If anything, it's gotten worse.

In their defense, however, it's probably largely not their fault. In my admittedly one-person-sample-size experience, 90% of the searchable Web is either Reddit threads or articles, and with Reddit going officially with Google (meaning DDG doesn't catch as many Reddit threads as they used to), that leaves most of the searchable Web being articles. Because SEO has to ruin everything.

So, it's not really that DDG is shitty (mostly), but that all searches are shitty. Though, with the whole Google-and-Reddit thing, I find Google's results are noticeably less shitty (though still shitty).

[–] untorquer 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I feel the same except Google is worse due to higher number of ads in results and most SEO prioritizes Google over Bing meaning more Google results are AI spam articles.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

no. i switch to using it as my primary search engine every once in a while, just to see how it's doing. i always run into situations where i can't find the thing im looking for. maybe im just the obscure searches man

[–] shaggyb 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I can turn off the horseshit firehose that we call AI, making it far better than google

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