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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/57826258

Hello fellow Europeans!

I have already swapped like 95% of all of my american applications to European alternstives (all besides YouTube). However, I have a question…: What the heck is happening on Mastodon?

a) there are a few people there (even in comparison to Lemmy it is just microscopic

b) seems like Mastodon has never seen Any moderation: even though I followed politics-related people/organisations, Mastodon was, almost, bombarding me with unmarked and VERY unwanted NSFW content. Why?

So the question is: how to deal with Mastodon? Is it only me? It would be very nice to get back there and make theiving conversations and threads like here on Lemmy.

Vive l’Europe, Vesi

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm bit surprised that no one talked about this yet. What you are experiencing is "not having an algorithm."

To start out forget about the federated and the local timeline. You have to build your own. What you want to do is find hashtags (!) and users to follow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Would you like to post a little summary on how to X-scape? Like a litte post with your experience on server selection and content discovery?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Jea, I know these pages, but I thought a little guide or personal experience post would be nice. Nothing bloated.

[–] baronvonj 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

there are a few people there (even in comparison to Lemmy it is just microscopic

Mastodon has like 20x the monthly active users.

https://fedidb.org/software

Have a look at https://fedi.tips/, which is Mastodon focused.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Mastodon was, almost, bombarding me with unmarked and VERY unwanted NSFW content. Why?

Sounds like you have the firehose on. If you're feed is set to 'federated' that means you're getting everything from everywhere. Double check and switch to Local (your instance) or Home (just your subscriptions).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

"there are a few people there"

Even if you have a Mastodon account yourself, the content and contacts are not limited to Mastodon.

You are connected to a large part of the Fediverse from Mastodon and so you can i.e. also comment in Lemmy threads or send content to Lemmy.

Personally, however, I didn't get on so well with Mastodon because I found the structure confusing and also missed some functions. I therefore moved my Mastodon account to Sharkey and have also been using Friendica for a long time. It also has a better thread structure and many more functions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

@caos @vesi *waving from mastodon*

[–] Gigameister 3 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Curious myself.

I've done reddit and Twitter, going for lemmy and bluesky.

Currently working on removing all my META connections so i can nuke that account to, and mastodon and pixelfy will surely follow.

For messaging i'm probably going for signal, being a long time user i'm probably just going to take a stand on whatsapp, if people want to message me, either move to signal or use SMS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Gigameister 1 points 4 hours ago

more like mastodon and lemmy, maybe bluesky, over META and reddit.

I don't think i've looked at pleroma.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Use Threema. It is a safer option. And it it European. 5€ is the price of freedom here. It is less than one good chockolade!

[–] Gigameister 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The problem with the messaging apps is adoption as far as i can tell, and it'll be a cold day in hell before you can get someone to change from a free, easy to get option to something paid.

I will look into it though, as i am looking for a substitute on android for the normal SMS/messaging app, maybe threema has the desired functions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It has everything you would like, brother

[–] Gigameister 1 points 15 hours ago

i can't see anywere that it will work as a base SMS app on adroid...

could you show me some feature review where that is shown?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

@vesi @Gigameister Definitely a good choice.
LOL, just last week had a message there from someone that while everyone was moving to Signal I was already at the next stage. Well, obviously he and family members also were. I've had Threema for many years already without any contacts.

But, Signal is still my first choice, and actually this is the only US based organisation I very well trust.
Also, if they get some issue in the US, they could very well relocate the foundation and servers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Would agree, but for many people Signal is the free drop in solution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

But is is american and you should never trust them because you never know What the f*ck will Trump do tomorrow

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It is American and a donation based foundation without any commercial interest. It is a meta discussion if they can/should be part of the solution but it just works like the free messenger everyone knows and love.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

I agree, but you really never know whether they will get nationalised or whatever else. There is no such problem with Threema. I simply love it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

@Gigameister @vesi You're planning to leave Mastodon?
Well, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[–] Gigameister 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I think you got us wrong... We're planning on joining and trying to understand it.

But hey, free vitriol!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

@Gigameister "and mastodon and pixelfy will surely follow" after exit Meta as you just arrived here simply states that this is not the space you're planning to stay.
Was that not what you wanted to say?

If you plan on Making Mastodon a permanent (everything is relative) place to stay, then welcome!

[–] Gigameister 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The context, in this case, is quite important.

It feels like you locked in on that sentence and didn't read the thred.

That's the same thing as walking into a conversation and taking it entirely out of context before dropping a nuke on the subject.

I re-read my comment, and considering the whole context, i cannot see how someone would think i was saying i was leaving, particularly with the sentence that comes before.

This is the internet though.

I hope you have a great day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

@Gigameister Well, it started with Mastodon, then you mention to be moving to Lemmy and Bluesky, followed by nuking Meta.
Well, I 'm really sorry if understanding that "followed by" didn't mean that leaving Mastodon was next on the list.
Quite a few have a look around here, and are gone again within a week. Obviously thinking Mastodon isn't good enough as they don't get the instant gratification of engagement. Well, thatyou have to build yourself by finding people you think post interesting >2

[–] Gigameister 1 points 13 hours ago

It's perfectly understandable, and it wouldn't be the internet if someone didn't throw some vitriol my way!

I'm not mad, annoyed or pissed, i'm just happy that i can find engagement, positive or not in my very first post!

I'm very hopefull and confident that i'm doing the right thing, even if i'm having reddit withdrawls symptons already!

But i'll get trough them!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

@Gigameister 2) comments and stories.
Thus, success finding your way around here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Hi, this all comes down to the instance of your choosing and the people and hashtags you are following. I had a very positive experience from the get go.

There are lots of highly moderated servers, because of regulations and possible illegal contents. As the personal timeline is only filled with content of your choice, there shouldn’t be much problems.

You can spice you timeline up with a trendingbot or with starter packs: https://fedidevs.com/starter-packs/