A lot of VPN servers in Netherlands may have something to do with it.....
this post was submitted on 05 Mar 2025
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I would have rather seen Element but hey, it's a step in the right direction.
Why? Matrix sucks as an instant messenger app, it's better as a Slack/Discord alternative.
Fluffy Chat is great too!
Nice! Never heard of that one, I'll look that up!
It's got matrix multi-account support and looks really nice.
I use Telegram, like betamax have I backed the wrong horse?
Nah we good bro (I have zero objective data to back this up but I want to think it's true because I'd be too lazy to move)
I'm sure going all in on a Russian company is just fine. Their Wikipedia entry has nothing at all to indicate any shady behavior.
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My dad just said in the WhatsApp group, why not move to signal. I tried moving friends and family before, but now that there has been anti meta media reports in some news sources. But especially reports on signal in almost every major newspaper and news source.
It seems not only a push because of privacy, but even more a anti big tech(especially us tech) and buy/use eu stuff push.
I don't mind the push I'm just curious if people stay on signal. Previous time there was a push to signal (during whatsapp technical difficulties and privacy push) people quickly want back to whatsapp.
Now my volunteer work, 1 friend and a family chat already moved to signal. The only thing I did was some explaining that you can just send images and so on. (That it's not something scary)
What are the major differences between what you can do on Whatsapp vs Signal?
Whatsapp let's you donate your contact list and social network to meta for them to resell.
Source?
It requires access to your contacts to work on Android. That is, you cannot type in a phone number. That's an intentional choice.
Oh, that's yucky. Thanks for the information, we haven't used it since it got bought by Facebook.
The only real differences we can think of is:
Whatsapp unlike Signal doesn't have usernames meaning a phone number must be used to contact others on it, and that Whatsapp's report feature shares the unencrypted message and surrounding messages with Meta to give context for the report.
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Let's hope they'll be able to continue to use it. It (and all other messengers with proper E2EE) is already on track to be outlawed in Sweden and France, and the new government in Germany will be pro mass-surveillance, too.
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