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In TOS they can have our data entered in browser as royalty free data. Now, what? I know we can use Librewolf but if Mozzila goes full evil. Then what choice we have. Can we make Mozzila reverse this changes? Remind them to be not evil? Both Proton and Firefox are core part of my privacy focus life. I swear to God I hate capitalism they all are just doing this for money.

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[–] TommySoda 105 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm so fucking tired of feeling like I'm in an adversarial relationship with everything. I'm so tired and I'm just trying to exist without everything that I do needing to be scraped and monetized.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

That's my sentiment. Everything is monetized and it's increasingly normalized, each successive generation knowing less and less that it could be otherwise

[–] LongLive 5 points 1 day ago

I feel you. It is scary and confusing. Remaining calm is important, though difficult.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

This is how I feel everyday I wake up. Every morning need to figure out where to move on to 🤦‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One more thing We should stop Fan Boying and defending what Mozzila did is good. Also, Fuck you Mozzila. I don't care what reason do you need this for but I only switched to Firefox for privacy. Every user of Firefox use it for Privacy. If you can't understand it then fuck you. Also Proton CEO fuck you. I don't understand why people need more money when they already have a good life.

[–] 9tr6gyp3 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Check out the tor browser or mullvad browser. They go above and beyond to protect privacy.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Using other Firefox Fork is not my point. I don't want to see Mozzilla and Proton go full evil for profit sake like Google.

[–] 9tr6gyp3 24 points 2 days ago

I understand you're upset. Maybe even feel betrayed.

We regain and build up our privacy through other avenues now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Mozilla was never your freind

[–] hypertown 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't have an android build though...

[–] 9tr6gyp3 2 points 2 days ago

Tor browser definitely has an Android build. They even provide the apk

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The sad part is you can’t win. moving to an alternate and more niche browser that is actually privacy focused like tor browser or the upcoming ladybird means you are far more susceptible to google and metas fingerprinting bullshit

Privacy is dead, advertising fucks killed it

[–] Zoldyck 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Someone explain why this is so bad like people make it out to be? I've seen many posts of people panicking. I just wonder if the panick is justified.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Based on that wording they can take any data you enter on a website and use it.

This means that...

...forum posts...
...personal details...
...banking information...
...pictures...
...passwords...

...can be collected and used.

This is an EXTREMELY broad blanket policy, and is an absolute insult to their previous work with privacy.

[–] Zoldyck 20 points 2 days ago

Yes that does seem very unwanted. Thanks for explaining.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

They will likely use or sell your browser activity for ai training and advertising.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Librewolf and maybe Waterfox

[–] PapstJL4U 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That seems to break DSGVO. Gonna have to write a mail to them every day, as well as inform your countries dsgvo person.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's a dick move for sure, but how exactly does it "break" GDPR?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Probably by collecting people's personal information that they would enter into web forms during the course of normal doing business on the internet. If you are opening a bank account or paying taxes online why should Firefox be allowed to collect your name, address, and birthdate?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

What is general opinion about zen browser (in terms of privacy and security)? I'm liking the whole look and feel.