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[–] DaddleDew 14 points 6 days ago

And also the overcharged customers, who are in majority the working class. It's a double whammy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In a healthy economy profits are used to expand businesses improve capital and for R&D.

Yeah we're in a phase with robber barons right now where that isn't always the case. I always wonder, was the last time there were robber barons also late stage capitalism? Was the Great Depression late stage capitalism? Have we been in late stage capitalism for over a century now?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Your first sentence suggests you only have a loose understanding as profit is revenue beyond all expenses including wages, rd, and reinvestment.

It's a pedantic but important difference as businesses regularly take on debt required to generate capital. Profit is also taxable while rd and infrastructure is usually deductible.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I think profits are fine, as long as every company is strictly a worker owned co-op.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

I worked for an “employee owned” corporation. It’s more of a tax shelter than an equitable model. The problem is they gift the executives so much stock that the amount any employee has is laughable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Even if those profits are distributed as shares to the employees. Those who put in the most effort end up with the smallest share.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Worker coops are certainly less exploitative than standard businesses, but compared to public ownership and coordination retains a lot of the limits of market-based systems. I think cooperatives can serve as a good section of a growing and developing economy, but in all likelihood will need to be phased out as competition dies out and public planning becomes more efficient.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Abolish the wage system

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Legal pyramid scheme with at least half the country having delusions of some day being the profiteer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

And the products on which the profit margins are too high.