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Maybe this could be a positive thing for newbies since now mastodon instances can federate with Tumblr and Threads to become more viable

Or could it bring destruction? Just like what happened with XMPP and OpenID

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[–] kazerniel 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think this is their attempt to EEE (Embrace, Extend, Extinguish) the Fediverse, so I'm strongly in favour of immediately defederating corporate instances as soon as they are created.

[–] Qvest 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Given how federation works (and my limited understanding of it) I believe not much will change, since they simply can't Extinguish. It's all federated into different instances under different moderation teams. They hold no 'ultimate control' over anything beyond their own instances

[–] kazerniel 6 points 1 year ago

I also have limited understanding, but these are huge corporations with huge userbases. If they start giving "helpful" input on how the ActivityPub protocol should develop, it may exert a strong pressure/influence due to their sheer size.

I know it's not the same situation, but it reminds me of how Google keeps trying to push shady stuff into Chromium, even though it's supposed to be free, open-source software.

[–] yogurtwrong 7 points 1 year ago

Yup, I think so. That's why I gave OpenID and XMPP as examples.

Tumblr wouldn't be much of a deal but if Zuck gets Activitypub integration working that would be a huge pain in the ass

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More like what happened with Walmart and local stores.

[–] yogurtwrong 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hope not. But even so seperate networks defederated from Threads can exist which is the most optimistic outcome if Threads implements activitypub

[–] argo_yamato 3 points 1 year ago

Probably that unless instances defederate from them.

[–] TheSpookiestUser 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've heard about Threads, which frankly I think will never pan out (they have no particular reason to encroach on this "market" given how small and usually anti-corporate it is here - I think they only mentioned ActivityPub as a buzzword), but Tumblr?

[–] yogurtwrong 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you're right about the Threads situation. As always zuck is pumping out buzzwords and hype.

Tumblr announced they will be starting to work on activitypub integration in November 2022 but I guess either it's taking a long time due to how Tumblr works or they completely forgot about it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Tumblr Idk for sure as I rarely used it but threads just no

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if Tumblr is going to actually do it, they have been working on it for a while. Automatic, the owners of Tumblr, did add it to wordpress already and they have open-sourced parts of Tumblr, so it would probably be fine