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[โ€“] expatriado 126 points 2 days ago (13 children)

quite vocal about how the world should be organized, but forgot to pay the domain dues

[โ€“] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (27 children)

DNS is neoliberalism incarnate ๐Ÿ˜‚

DNS is the most neoliberal shit system that too many have just accepted as how computers work and always worked to the point where I have heard actual landlord arguments deployed to defend it

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

If I didn't know this was chapotraphouse I would consider it an excellent shitpost.

[โ€“] [email protected] 68 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I like how a whole community of academics and researchers worked out how to run a system which, even into the modern day which is kind of amazing, is largely disconnected from being abused by government and industry, and just runs according to what the people who need to use the system need it to do. You can get extorted for a fancy domain name if you really want to, but you can also go to Hostinger and get one for $5/year or something, because a lot of the core of the system is still pretty well-protected from being a cash-grab, through application of good governance and cooperation.

And then, somehow Hexbear managed to find their way around that system and fucked things up for themselves, and now it's all DNS's fault that they stepped in a pile of doo doo.

Never forget the architects of the internet were some of the vilest US MIC and Silicon Valley ghouls who ever lived and they are still in control fundamentally no matter how much ICANN and IANA claim to be non-partison, neutral, non-political, accountable, democratic, international, stewardshipismists

Yes, John Postel and David Mills were some of the vilest ghouls and so on. There was nothing about them that could provide a good model for how to do effective cooperation and succeed outside the systems of ownership that defined computing and telecommunications at the time, no particular reason they succeeded so dramatically and gave you, ultimately, this space to post pig balls today, and nothing about their work and traditions that needs to be defended against any silicon valley ghouls in the modern day. You fucking dingbat. I started out sticking up for you guys because no one deserves to get victimized by DNS scammers, but I take it back, go fuck yourselves.

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[โ€“] dojan 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean unlike housing, you don't actually need to pay for a domain name. There are plenty of free alternatives if you ill like paying for a TLD, and in lieu of that you could just memorise the IP, or even instruct people to change their hosts file.

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[โ€“] TankovayaDiviziya 14 points 1 day ago

Remember kids, this is why you still need money. This is literally how the Soviet Union collapsed and why China today became a state capitalist.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Blaming capitalism for domain names being a nightmare is hilarious, they are insanely cheap its 12$ a year for a .com, that is all, lol.

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is just straight up bad planning, they said they have jobs and lives like bro you turn on autorenew you put money in the card, any local business has no issues holding their domain for a decade lol, how do you just not make having it with the person hosting the site a priority.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

The admins made a rookie mistake: they believed someone on the Internet.

"I'll do it tomorrow" means fucking never. Nah, bitch, do it TODAY.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 64 points 2 days ago (7 children)

This is amusing, but one guy from the crosspost raised a valid problem:
If the hexbear domain fully dies, then all the idiots kept in containment by defederation will start jumping ship to other instances, and start causing trouble for users and moderators.

[โ€“] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

all the idiots kept in containment by defederation will start jumping ship to other instances, and start causing trouble for users and moderators

Many of them already do that with alt accounts, which would explain the considerable number of downvotes here.

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[โ€“] spicy_mango 10 points 1 day ago (47 children)
[โ€“] spongeborgcubepants 4 points 1 day ago

An unhealthy Lemmy obsession.

Just block it and get on with your life.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 57 points 2 days ago (20 children)

Could not happen to a nicer bunch.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is IMO a risk for many individual owned fediverse instance. Someone has a domain, at a point other admin take over, and the domain owner doesn't renew no matter whether they forget because real life happens or due to some Drama.

Very few instances have a clear legal organizational (like a non profit club) running, which is more flexible when founders step out

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah this does prove a failing point for the fediverse that is an important part of larger adoption. This still mostly exists in large part by communal effort even if the community doesn't appreciate it or recognize it

[โ€“] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Heartbreaking: The Worst Capitalist Practice You Know Just Accidentally Picked A Funny Target

[โ€“] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

... if DNS is the worst capitalist practice you know of then you REALLY should spend less time shitposting and more time paying attention to the world.

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

(It's a joke/reference, I guess it's not 100% known though. My bad.)

I really do hate "I know what I have so you are going to pay whatever number I set" capitalism though, which is what they do here. These registrars figured out a loophole around the redemption grace period and are, from the start, set up to make you lose the domain and then spend significant money on a completely unfair auction where they have the power to plant fake bids, rather than paying the usual static redemption fees that aren't that excessive.

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