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I currently use Telegram for my friends and family, but have reluctantly come to the conclusion that the UK Government is either reaching agreement for backdoors with messaging services, or is trying its hardest to.

I'm also on Element/Matrix. Before I try to get my contacts to join me on there, should I be aware of any privacy issues or is that a good place to head?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I think at this point it would be funnier to just use something obviously unsecure like discord but share your public key with the other user and then send encrypted text.

[–] Gumus 5 points 19 hours ago

I guess a vencord plugin for that wouldn't be that difficult to do

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You may want SimpleX. You can still self-host your own server if you wish, but it doesn't have nearly the metadata issues of matrix and encryption keys are stored in a database that you back up instead of constantly breaking

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Last time I tried Simplex, the desktop app was incompatible with the mobile app. Do you know whether this has been fixed?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I haven't personally tried it, but I think there's a setting in the mobile app for using it with a desktop. So I assume it is fixed, but I won't swear to it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

It works. You either have to link it with your mobile app or you use it standalone with a different user/id

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The two encrypted messaging platforms I currently suggest are XMPP or Matrix. Both are usually fine and are decentralized. The main thing with them is to either self-host or choose a server you trust to set up an account — which applies to the Fediverse in general.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, is there anything stopping you from suggesting SimpleX? How does SimpleX compare to XMPP or Matrix?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

Mostly just that it's still pretty new and thus hasn't been as polished or scrutinized yet. Haven't tried it myself. For the sake of the OP's question, it may also be notable that it's a UK company.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

There’s also Wire

E2EE and can be used as desktop or phone app interchangeably. No phone number required for signup.

Family has been using this for years now

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

I've heard good things about simplex give it a look

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