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I just heard about RetroAIM. Which is a way to use AIM (AOL Instant Messanger) in the modern day, running your own servers.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Wasn't AIM just using XMPP? (It's been a while since I looked at these things).

Still neat. AIM was impressive for the time, I even ran it on Android circa 2009. Frustrating that things like AIM/XMPP got supplanted by SMS, then things like WhatsApp, etc got in when we already had better with XMPP!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Plot twist - WhatsApp is XMPP.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

SMS is older than AIM by four years. Before 3G, and before phones like the iPhone and Android devices, using internet on a mobile was clunky and awful anyway. SMS and XMPP did not really directly compete.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I think many chat clients at that time were XMPP based. We used Lotus Sametime at work, and now I am pretty certain it was XMPP (remembering some UX details and specifics), and it worked incredibly well.

IIRC Google Hangouts was XMPP, too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

That's great, I used ICQ a lot back in the day.