ErgoMechKeyboards
Ergonomic, split and other weird keyboards
Rules
Keep it ergo
Posts must be of/about keyboards that have a clear delineation between the left and right halves of the keyboard, column stagger, or both. This includes one-handed (one half doesn't exist, what clearer delineation is that!?)
i.e. no regular non-split¹ row-stagger and no non-split¹ ortholinear²
¹ split meaning a separation of the halves, whether fixed in place or entirely separate, both are fine.
² ortholinear meaning keys layed out in a grid
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Some useful links
- EMK wiki
- Split keyboard compare tool
- Compare keycap profiles Looking for another set of keycaps - check this site to compare the different keycap profiles https://www.keycaps.info/
- Keymap database A database with all kinds of keymap layouts - some of them fits ergo keyboards - get inspired https://keymapdb.com/
Very cool indeed! I'd like to see the keyboard integration, once it's ready. Are there enough free pins on this module to handle the GPIOs for a keyboard matrix?
There are 6 GPIO available. So maybe a macro Pad… but my idea is do embed it in The case but still have a separate usb cable to it. You can also display things on the screen if you’d like. It has a RTC and a battery management circuit so you could make it into a clock, or use the GPIO to speak with your keyboard to send keystrokes data via serial…
I guess if the available pins support i2c you could hook it up to a gpio expander
Yes. It does I2C. It’s also a pi Pico core so dual core. So you could use a separate core to drive the screen independently from the keyboard to keep them fast.
Edit: actually the i2C is not exposed on the pins, but you should be able to use the BitBang_I2C library to expose them on any pair of GPIO pins. I’ll try it out and report back.
Edit2: actually, no need for that library you can set virtual I2C to any pins I tried it with another project on the same board.
That's really cool! Looking forward to future updates, great work.
Thanks! Updates so far are:
- turns out there is no multitouch, so no two finger right click or two finger scroll. I’ll need to work something else out. Likely will have to be. Key plus scroll or something…
- there are only 6 pins exposed and none are I2C but you can use BitBang_I2C library to expose them then use an I2C expander board to use it in a full keyboard.
Regarding the scrolling, do you reckon it'll be possible to implement it like how the Galaxy Watches do their scrolling?
If you touch the edge of the screen and rotate it, it scrolls clockwise and anti-clockwise. Works decently enough although I do prefer the physical wheel.
I just updated the GitHub repo. It now has circular scrolling. Still. But buggy but it’s progressing!!!
Just to give some extra inspiration,
The multitouch gestire would be kinda unusable, but for scrolling I suggest to steal the same gestire from the japanese Toshiba laptops. They have a circular trackpad and for scrolling use the Edge of the trackpad with clockwise and counter-clockwise movement.
I know that I made It sound confusing, but if you see a video of that in action Will be Easy af to understand!
And it’s implemented and pushed to GitHub. Scrolling is a bit jerky right now but it works!
Actually that makes perfect sense and I live the idea! All it has to do is check where your initial touch was. If I’m ce center, then trackpads off on the edges of the circle then scroll. I may even be able to use LVGL to make that even better in the future. Thanks for the tip. And for right click I am planning on a hold, and tap+hold for drag.
This is really cool! You could use it to display information about layers and when touched it transforms into a touchpad
That’s the idea
Touchpad = trackpad
I've never heard the term touchpad. They're synonyms, right?
Yes
It's called touchpad in Windows settings.
Huh! TIL! I use macs way more often, but I also use windows and I've changed the settings of the pad many times, i can't believe i didn't notice/dont remember that the names are different.
Yes both terms are interchangeable. I chose touchpad because it’s a touchscreen.
This is such an awesome idea.
Wow unreal.
This looks super interesting. There are a bunch of embedded development communities on the threadiverse, consider cross-posting this over (I think Lemmy has a cross posting feature that avoids duplicates)
Unfortunately, they’re all a bit stale as of now but I’ll x post to do my part but it feels a lot more like throwing a bottle in the ocean than posting to a community.
This is super cool! Is the firmware flexible enough to support a similar ESP32 based chip? Something like this. That'll then allow you to make the touchpad wireless over BLE and just stick it on any keyboard as long as you have a way to power it.
You could pull the trackpad logic out of this but it would need some rewrite. For the next version , I’m actually looking into implementing the drivers into QMK keyboard firmware as it has a whole trackpad management as well that does what I wrote and more and also is much more flexible.
Oh neat! QMK seems to be the most appropriate for trackpads. I was thinking of something that could be wireless which afaik QMK doesn't support. And ZMK's support for pointer devices is not great just yet.
I hear you. The two issues are this model has no wireless as it’s rp2040. Also a touchscreen is pretty power hungry for a wireless device like a keyboard that is supposed to be charged infrequently.
Yeah, both valid points. I was asking about the firmware supporting an esp32 specifically for the wireless capabilities. And on terms of battery life, I went overboard and installed 3000mAh batteries in my keyboard that I can use to power the display 😂
God damn, that's cool as hell. I look forward to seeing it integrated with the keyboard in the future!