What's a liberal? Feel like this word doesn't mean anything anymore
Australia
A place to discuss Australia and important Australian issues.
Before you post:
If you're posting anything related to:
- The Environment, post it to Aussie Environment
- Politics, post it to Australian Politics
- World News/Events, post it to World News
- A question to Australians (from outside) post it to Ask an Australian
If you're posting Australian News (not opinion or discussion pieces) post it to Australian News
Rules
This community is run under the rules of aussie.zone. In addition to those rules:
- When posting news articles use the source headline and place your commentary in a separate comment
Banner Photo
Congratulations to @[email protected] who had the most upvoted submission to our banner photo competition
Recommended and Related Communities
Be sure to check out and subscribe to our related communities on aussie.zone:
- Australian News
- World News (from an Australian Perspective)
- Australian Politics
- Aussie Environment
- Ask an Australian
- AusFinance
- Pictures
- AusLegal
- Aussie Frugal Living
- Cars (Australia)
- Coffee
- Chat
- Aussie Zone Meta
- bapcsalesaustralia
- Food Australia
- Aussie Memes
Plus other communities for sport and major cities.
https://aussie.zone/communities
Moderation
Since Kbin doesn't show Lemmy Moderators, I'll list them here. Also note that Kbin does not distinguish moderator comments.
Additionally, we have our instance admins: @[email protected] and @[email protected]
Simple.
A Liberal is a member of the right wing Liberal Party of Australia
A republican is anti-monarchy and for a republic of Australia.
Lmao in the US that'd mean very different things, I see I see
the liberals is very clearly the LNP.
It's either a party brand name in which case it's meant to invoke a vibe of progressivism that it may or may not live up to because it's just part of political word salad...
Or its a political system that premiered back in the day of John Locke and Stuart Mill before fundamental rights were a widely accepted thing for the average joe that advocated for a series of basic human rights that from the start was very very focused on individual property rights and protection from government seizure because there was a habit monarchs had of doing that shit all the god damn time. Exceptions to these rights always existed but how the government interacts with those property rights particularly when it comes to "rights of corporations" is kind of up in the air. Socialism can optionally dovetail into liberalism by socializing different aspects of property and services but is not compatible with Communism because individual property rights are in direct conflict with allocation of resources based on government calculated need.
Technically Republicans and Liberals in the US are both liberals just Republicans are "neo-liberals" an ideology that became vogue with the likes of Regan and Thatcher where government regulatory bodies are looked at as an enemy and chunks of what were government are privatized... Which these parties sell as a cost cutting austerity measure but this has never been historically known to do anything but make things worse quality, not less expensive anf line the pockets of contractors and shareholders who are usually unsurprisingly ex politicians.
In this context I assume liberal party member.
But more generally tho its a shame the word has lost its original meaning.
It hasn't, it refers to neoliberals. The massively dominant ideology with near total hegemony in the anglosphere.
Neoliberals couple some elements of classical liberalism with some rather courageous (in the yes minister sense) beliefs about the magic of free market capitalism and a diminished role for the state.
The more I look at Australia, the more I think we're the upside down ones