As an application author, Snaps are much easier to create than Flatpaks.
this post was submitted on 11 Jan 2025
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Haters are weird in the maga way.
I tried mint; it was worse. I was like oh well, guess I'll deal with the snaps.
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There's no need to snap
Femcel: I will flatten you if you disagree with me <3
Don't snap at me, but it would be more apt of you to make a flat pack, or create an app image, or you might get stuck in a tar ball.
Snaps make sens from the Ubuntu side.
Only one package to maintain for an application, even if they have different distributions to maintain. If snap is officially supported by the creator of the application, then it's less work for Canonical. Well, it would have make more sens if flatpak didn't exist.
From user side, it makes way less sens :
- the closed source application shop
- if snaps are not officially supported, then Canonical try to create one, and they may be not that great ...
- ...
I'd say snaps are aimed at servers. A big aspect of both Flatpaks and Snaps is the whole sandboxed environment thing.
I think that's a major reason Canonical flubbed snaps, is they shoved them down the throats of casual users instead of focusing on using them in server situations where you want things more "locked down."
Once again, it does seem silly that they reinvented the wheel, but I mean, that's actually really common. So common there is an XKCD comic about it. So due to how commonplace such a thing is, it seems weird to attack Canonical so much over it.
It's also inaccurate to say that they reinvented the wheel since snaps predate flatpaks.
it seems weird to attack Canonical so much over it.
I mean, on the technical side, sure. Canonical's technical choice is just weird. Plenty of fully open app store environments have almost no competition, because self hosting is still hard work.
But all of the business reasons - for having a closed proprietary sole app server - go against everything that Canonical used to claim they stood for.
Canonical's business choice not to open source the snap servers is an open declaration of war against the FOSS community who have previously rallied around them.
It's like inviting someone into my basement and locking the door with a key as they get to the bottom step. The action isn't illegal, but the probable motive is creepy as fuck. (Maybe I just watch too many horror movies. Lol.)
Nobody gave a fuck when Launchpad was open sourced. People just demand and demand and when a company does the thing they don't care.
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I still use Ubuntu server. It’s not nearly as atrocious as Ubuntu desktop.
I use Server for my Pi-Hole running on an old NUC.
My endpoints run either Mint or Manjaro.
I use Ubuntu desktop for my server! What can I say? I installed it one night on my desktop to see how it felt and my experiment turned into an entire fucking server because "already here. More convenient."
I run 3d printer management software on an old Dell server using desktop ubuntu. Works just fine. I made a second user account that hosts a minecraft server, and a third user account that runs a steam account to host a 7 days to die server. I really wanted to get into administering my own home lab, but I'm just too casual and there is not enough time in the day for me to do all of my hobbies. I can remote in and see a GUI, easy day.
Saving your comment for later, when people who know far more than either of us tell you why that's a horrible idea.
I wouldn't take too seriously anyone saying it's a horrible idea. I mean, I think you could always argue it's a waste of resources running a GUI for a thing intended to be a server. But headless servers aren't the end all be all. I'm sure there's a lot of licensed redhat instances out there running gnome or whatever because reasons.
Personally I wouldn't do it unless some hard necessity were there because it's just another thing that could go wrong, another thing to maintain if you're capturing your config as code, and mostly because I'm not gonna dedicate a keyboard/monitor for that kind of stuff.
It's how we do.
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I'm yet to have an issue with snaps while using Ubuntu
Oh you mean South African Debian. Yeah that's a popular mod, I guess.