this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2023
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Expats from Reddit's largest community focusing on cannabis flower vaporizers.

  1. Be chill, this is a cannabis forum after all.
  2. Post links, pics, vids talking about where your fav vape/bong/glass/pipe was from.
  3. Don’t sell anything consumable on here. No sales of herb, extract, carts, pens, edibles, drinks, tintcures, anything that’s a consumable product.
  4. DEVICES and ACCESSORIES like a Mighty, Tinymight, some custom glass for a Carta or PuffCo Peak, 510 Mods, log vapes, DIY/One off vapes/pipes/bags/stems/dab tools/Etsy type shit that Etsy bans. That stuff is fine. AT YOUR OWN RISK. And that needs it’s own channel/community(communities) if people are interested in an exchange.
  5. Provide citations/sources for posts/comments where needed.
  6. Openly discuss safety of equipment/devices and cannabis products.
  7. Be mindful of what you post on here. The point is to have the whole server indexed by Google and other search providers and keep the space alive/history documented/growing in the future. (AKA Share Knowledge / Share the vibes. / Don’t get me arrested plz. )

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[–] Smokeydope 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can someone explain why one of them is toxic?

[–] Delta3DStudios 1 points 1 year ago

This chart has been circulating the internet for a long time. However it doesn't accurately cite it's sources for all of this info.

As far as I've been able to deduce, the "Benzene" warning comes from a single study which found benzene gas in the vapor when the herb was cooked.

HOWEVER at the time when that study was conducted, there was only one federally approved supplier of the material for testing, and it came from the The University of Mississippi. If you look into it, you'll see that researchers have complained for YEARS about the quality of the material that came from this farm, they wanted to test better quality material from other suppliers but the Old Miss was the only one federally approved for research.

You can read more about the problem here - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/scientists-say-governments-pot-farm-moldy-samples-no-guidelines

My problem is that since that study only used material from one supplier, who's to say that it wasn't tainted by a grower in the field? Maybe someone was refilling their tractor next to that plant that was plucked for testing?

Moreover, if you read further into the details, you'll see that the study found a very low concentration of benzene in the vapor. Look into how much benzene gas is consumed when you drive down a highway in your car, or walk along a busy highway.

Unfortunately for decades most funding for research studies has been focused on finding negative affects from the plant so that congress could further regulate the plant and lock people up for this "dangerous" plant. Things are finally changing and we're starting to see more government funding for the benefits of cannabis. But there's still a long way to go.

Just my $0.02 on this chart and benzene gas in vapor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From what I can gather, it's largely because you're getting more smoke than vapour at that temperature. But I'm probably wrong.

[–] Delta3DStudios 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Combustion does not occur until 440-450F.

You're not getting "smoke" at temps between 400F and 430F, you're getting different vapor. (Note, Indicas and CBDs cook best at hotter temps and extract more vapor while Sativas won't produce as much vapor at high temps since most of their vapor cooks out at lower temps)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

its simple and i like it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That part of the image has this link in it https://www.canorml.org/vaporizers/

In that article, the first link to "Study: Vaporizers Deliver Safe, Reliable Doses Of Cannabinoids" works and so do the links it references if you want to go down a rabbit hole. It'll prob explain better somewhere along the way than most people could.

but the second link "Laboratory studies by California NORML and MAPS" goes to a dead page.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's definitely worth a post or its own.

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