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The Australian state of Queensland has passed laws which will see children as young as 10 subject to the same penalties as adults if convicted of crimes such as murder, serious assault and break-ins.

The government says the harsher sentencing rules are in response to "community outrage over crimes being perpetrated by young offenders" and will act as a deterrent.

But many experts have pointed to research showing that tougher penalties do not reduce youth offending, and can in fact exacerbate it.

The United Nations has also criticised the reforms, arguing they disregard conventions on the human rights of children and violate international law.

The Liberal National Party (LNP) - which won the state election in October - made the rules a hallmark of its campaign, saying they put the "rights of victims" ahead of "the rights of criminals"

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[–] FlyingSquid 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You guys are becoming more like America all the time. Sorry about that.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Queensland is the Texas of Australia so no surprise they’ve gone down this path. The newly elected conservative state government won on “hard on crime” bullshit rhetoric. Queensland has done this before and suffered the consequences of their actions; the same will happen again this time.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I hope so, because this has never felt moral or ethical to me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

It is gross and wrong on all levels. The hidden agenda in there relates to the colour of the youth offenders skin, which unsurprisingly is not white, just to add an extra layer of shittiness to the whole thing.

[–] Pregnenolone 4 points 1 month ago

Every 10 years or so Queenslanders elect our republican equivalent because they’re bored. They send the entire state back 20 years, then they get tossed out for 10 years.

Cycle repeats.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The ~~beatings~~ imprisonment will continue until ~~morale~~ crime rates ~~improves~~ decrease

Edit: I mean, if a kid is doing murder, somethings wrong with the parenting or the environment, how about fix those?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

What makes it all the more shitful is that there IS no youth crime problem in Queensland. It was a beat up by the Conservative Party during the last state election (which they won because Queenslanders are the inbred yokel state of Australia).

[–] FlyingSquid 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, if a kid is doing murder, somethings wrong with the parenting or the environment, how about fix those?

That is not necessarily true. Sometimes it's mental illness and parenting is not enough and would never be enough. A parent might not necessarily recognize the signs either.

It may often be a parenting issue, I don't know, but I also remember a kid in my high school who sexually assaulted his sister and his mother one night by knife-point in a psychotic episode no one had predicted. And I know it wasn't a parenting issue.

[–] bassomitron 6 points 1 month ago

Childhood trauma is the typical root cause 99% of the time.

Source: My wife is a therapist specializing in treating traumatized children.

This law is disgusting and a 10-year-old's brain is barely developed. Putting the same degree of responsibility on them as an adult is abhorrent.

[–] Badeendje 12 points 1 month ago

That will surely help them.