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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe, if:

  • leap seconds only ever increment (or decrement)
  • The accuracy of the device is substantially more than 1s per year, over a long timespan.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I was going to say that leap seconds only increment, but apparently that's just been historically true, not theoretically true according to Wikipedia:

All have so far been positive leap seconds, adding a second to a UTC day; while it is possible for a negative leap second to be needed, one has not happened yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah. I don't think it would need to be powered on continuously either. If you were motivated enough, you could extract the firmware and check the code to see what leap seconds it was programmed with. But yeah, you could tell "it is at least as old as the last leap second it knows about, and is probably younger than the first one it doesn't know about". Can't say for sure that it wasn't manufactured after the first leap second it doesn't know about though by a manufacturer that just didn't care enough to include the new one.

This probably wouldn't be the easiest way to tell though, there's a lot of physical clues in manufacturing methods and whatnot that would likely be easier to date it by.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

If the device was a nuclear clock in the same reference frame, maybe.