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[–] Nednarb44 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I can see why it isn't vegan right now. Its also not hard to imagine that in the future it doesn't need animal cells for the process. Claiming that it will never be vegan is just an unnecessary addition that only makes people look overly pessimistic and stuck in their ways. Just leave it at "it's not currently vegan"

Also complaining that other forms of suffering will still exist, like wool gathering and leather etc is just being stupid. How does that help the conversation? Does some new technology have to eliminate all forms of animal suffering to be a good step forward?

[–] winkly 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, if people ate cultured meat instead of killing animals, wouldn’t that be better? It’s still not technically vegan but isn’t the whole point to reduce suffering? Why not support it? I feel like promoting cultivated meat would align the vegan goals, no?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The cells need to come from somewhere, so animals will still be exploited regardless. From what I've read, the growth medium and lab production is far from sustainable. I also don't have the most confidence in the meat industry and wouldn't put it past them to lie about factory meat being lab grown. If we're doing fine with tofu and other alternative proteins, why do vegans need to bother with this stuff?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

The cells need to come from somewhere, so animals will still be exploited regardless.

Animals are harmed when they're displaced from their homes being converted to farmland. But it's a one time deal for millennia worth of vegetables, so it's acceptable to still call that vegan. I would say that taking a bit of tissue from one animal to replicate indefinitely for the foreseeable future would also fall into this category.

If we're doing fine with tofu and other alternative proteins, why do vegans need to bother with this stuff?

We still need to cater to vegans who have food allergies and intolerances. More options available means more people who can go vegan.