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[–] mojofrododojo 12 points 2 weeks ago

Texas is killing women with sepsis for their god.

such a strange thing, religion...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Shaman was done dirty here. They are tribal doctors foremost.

I am not going to say there were never abusive shamans, its kinda every position of power where this occurs. And there are also plastic-shamans nowadays which clearly aren’t made of the same stuff of the originals.

[–] DougHolland -1 points 2 weeks ago

Fair, thanks. I'll tweak the text next time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All positions of power can (and will) be exploited. While religion has been used to justify a lot of bad things, so has a lot of other things. Religion is also a lot of good things, like culture, philosophy and wisdom passing through generations.

It is also worth noting that you criticise religion as a whole, but all your links are about Christianity.

I point this out, because I used to be a hardcore White atheist and I had a lot of bad takes. A lot of indigenous religions do not have the same ideas about hierarchy and even the Christian idea that humans are above nature often does not exist.

Hierarchies are a bad thing in all* forms, but hierarchies are not necessary for religion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They kinda are, though. My take is that all organised religion is bad. But what is the difference between a personal belief and a religion? It's pretty much the level of organisation. And with organisation comes hierarchies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Uh... No? A religion is a belief system shared by many people. Organization, let alone hierarchies is optional but not at all necessary. For example as a Muslim I'd argue that at least mainstream Sunni Islam (excluding deviant groups such as Sufists) doesn't fit the Western concept of organized religion. Setting aside the merits and demerits of religion, it feels to me that discussion on this topic on English-speaking media is very eurocentric for the conclusions it attempts to reach.

[–] yetiftw 3 points 2 weeks ago

to be honest Judaism isn't particularly organized either. there is no central authority past each synagogue's own rabbi and even then their "authority" is rather limited

[–] ChicoSuave 4 points 2 weeks ago

Those who can, do. Those that can't, preach.

[–] dwalin -3 points 2 weeks ago

Nice selection bias you got there. Please include also shitty things done not in the name of religion and maybe its not religion, but human nature