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Harris only received five percent of Republican votes — less than the six percent Joe Biden won in 2020 when he beat Trump, as well as the seven percent won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she lost to him. While Harris won independents and moderates, she did so by smaller margins than Biden did in 2020.

Meanwhile, Harris lost households earning under $100,000, while Democratic turnout collapsed. Votes are still being counted, but Harris is on pace to underperform Biden’s 2020 totals by millions of votes.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 hours ago (6 children)

Everyone needs to let them know how strongly this article is nailing it.

https://democrats.org/contact-us/

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Both her and Clinton should have been braver with VP choice.

They both chose VP milquetoast when the time called for people wanting change.

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[–] nutsack 29 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

yeah this was a really fucking stupid idea and I think any Dingus on Twitter could have told you the same. The Trump voter base does not move. everyone's been saying this. I don't understand the Democrat strategy at all

I don't know what the actual numbers are on this, but I have to imagine the number of progressive voters who want more progressive policies far exceeds the number of Republicans that will vote Democrat. if anyone has a source to this data, I am interested in it.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I don’t understand the Democrat strategy at all

Someone else summed it up better than I can. The democratic party is doing exactly what it set out to do.

Nitter link.

They have no interest in furthering progressive policies so they don't. That's why the DNC chair is calling Bernie Sander's critique of the party's platform bullshit right now, instead of admitting he's right.

The system is as it does.

[–] nutsack 4 points 6 hours ago

i think some of this is true, but I don't think that they would be implementing all of the same policies. maybe all the things that they actually care about are common between the two, and that's what he means.

[–] IndustryStandard 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Democrats called those Twitter users Russian trolls. They are now advocating to restrict social media so this cannot happen again.

[–] nutsack 2 points 5 hours ago (8 children)

They are now advocating to restrict social media so this cannot happen again.

source?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 hours ago

Kamalas campaign thought they could win without offending any megadonors, despite seeing what a bit of honesty did for them right after biden was replaced.

Ive never seen such obvious virtue signaling, I'm not sure kamala even believed her own words.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Here's a fun little tip if you're ever able to try this again.

MLK Jr. never appealed to the white man, he never tried to win over whitey nor tone down his message so that he didn't alienate his opressors, and he never tried to get the Klan on his side.

Notice how we don't have segregation anymore? It's because if Dr. King did these things, he'd have been luaghed at.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ding ding ding! Trump went further right and got more support. DNC should go further left. People want radical change in 2024

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This. Right. Here.

Stop the triangulation it needs to die already.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If we wanted to be Republicans we'd be Republicans for fucks sake...

We can't have 2 parties fighting to be the most hateful party of the billionaires. I mean I guess we can but only one gets to win.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The Democrats have been chasing the mythical moderate conservative at the expense of the progressive left forever and have learned nothing. I want a fire and brimstone progressive who is belligerent and aggressive

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago

I'd even be happy to settle for someone in the middle of the party willing to fight for the party's supposed ideals. Remember when one of her slogans was "when we fight, we win"? Not "when we bipartisan, we win" or "when we coopt conservative issues, we win".

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 156 points 16 hours ago (10 children)

If there’s one lesson the DNC should learn it’s this.

They won’t. But they should.

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[–] CharlesDarwin 62 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah, the notion that she was going to put a Republican in her cabinet.....did anyone think that was a good idea? I mean, outside the beltway media?

[–] JustZ 3 points 4 hours ago

That was a media lie. She said that sarcastically and both her and the reporter were laughing. Media didn't report that fact, other than the original interview which aired like one time.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I know every early on she was talking about possibly having a Republican Vice President before she wised up and went with Tim Walz and ran on his progressive ideas for about... three seconds till Nancy and the DNC told her to just do what Hillary did, as that worked for her and Kamela is obviously the second female president right now. /s

[–] VinnyDaCat 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Seeing Walz as her VP pick was such a win and then everything started slipping away. If you listened to her speeches you'd start to notice she was slowly leaning more conservative, slowly backpedaling on a lot of Biden admin policies even. And for some reason she was absolutely obsessed with going on right wing media outlets.

I genuinely think she's rather well spoken but what a waste of potential.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

The Republicans had their little tea party a few years ago. The Democrats need a Guillotine Party to properly represent us.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

The Tea Party forced the GOP to rebrand and restructure itself around the most extreme right wing ideas possible

Occupy Wallstreet tried to do the same thing, and... were savagely beaten by the police over it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

Because the Tea Party was useful to just make the Republicans more unapologetically anti-government (something rich people like) while Occupy was demanding that Democrats become unapologetically antagonistic to rich people.

[–] Ensign_Crab 5 points 8 hours ago

The police choose who they will protect and who they will serve.

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