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Biden only supported legalized medical marijuana, and to his credit, he did actually start the process to do that. He order rescheduling to schedule 3 which basically legalizes medical marijuana. It should go into effect around December as the DEA has dragged out the process

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Will this include pardons for the millions of people currently in prison for weed possession?

[–] TheRealKuni 29 points 22 hours ago

IIRC, Biden did this already happened. But most people in prison for weed are imprisoned under state law, not Federal, so he can’t do anything about them.

[–] AdolfSchmitler 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Believe it when it happens, until then it's just a carrot

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

I mean Biden has already started the process for rescheduling weed to schedule 3 for medical legalization. Process is long but it's at the tail end with the final hearing in December. It's not too hard to see Harris just using the same process but asking for full descheduling rather than asking them for schedule 3. Or if Dems get a trifecta, she could also try to get congress to legalize directly in law (faster than the executive branch only action)

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

can't have something you can grow in your backyard replacing all kinds of expensive pills now, can we?

[–] FordBeeblebrox 7 points 1 day ago

It’s actually an interesting conundrum. I have several relatives in the medical field and they would love to prescribe a cannabis or psilocybin treatment but cannot due to legal blocks, so they have to write an Rx for the pills. Assuming we don’t go full Gilead in the next week the research and development of natural treatments should continue, a lot of doctors are subscribing to the “plants not pills” avenue

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Don't follow what you are saying? Legalizing recreationally is also legalizing it medically

Even Biden supported medical marijuana and he already started the process to legalize that (via rescheduling)

[–] grue 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What he's saying is that a lot of the forces against recreational legalization are also against medical legalization, and moreover that a lot of the "moral crusade" against it is actually just cynical anti-competitive business tactics.

Or, [sigh], maybe that's just what I'm reading into it and he had no deeper point to make.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

actually just cynical anti-competitive business tactics

yes, pharmaceutical companies lose money when people use weed instead of pain pills, or any of the other pills that weed replaces. but advocates for private prisons also want weed to stay as a schedule 1, because that means more bodies in more cells costing more tax dollars. https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/03/13/289000532/why-for-profit-prisons-house-more-inmates-of-color

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Legalizing recreationally is also legalizing it medically

but legalizing medically is NOT legalizing recreationally

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes? Harris is saying she wants it legalized medically and recreationally. She's supporting full legalization here and she has earlier in the campaign

I still don't follow what you are trying to say? Unless you are just concuring with Harris?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If this happens, surely other countries copying American policy will be a good thing for once

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

God I fucking hope so. I'm tired of the war on drugs model copied from the US here in Norway. The very least we can do is also copy the solution

[–] cubism_pitta 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just wish they would shut the fuck up and legalize it everywhere.

The hemp laws that try to define THC preach effectively legalized delta-8 everywhere and give enough plausible deniability that possession isn't a crime anywhere so long as you learn to say "that's hemp"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

and legalize it everywhere

That's what she's essentially saying she wants to do, no?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Lol, with the Republicans pro-prison platform it's unlikely they follow this stance. There is no justification to keep alcohol, a known poison, legal and not weed.

[–] Anticorp 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean, she's currently the vice president and supposedly the president and her have the same agenda. So, why don't they just legalize it right now? Why hold it hostage behind an unsure election? Surely actually legalizing it would gain the votes of anyone who would vote yes because she said she'd do it later.

[–] TheRealKuni 4 points 22 hours ago

I mean, she's currently the vice president and supposedly the president and her have the same agenda. So, why don't they just legalize it right now?

Because the power of the president is not absolute.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They don't agree on it. Biden only supported legalized medical marijuana, and to his credit, he did actually start the process to do that. He order rescheduling to schedule 3 which basically legalizes medical marijuana. It should go into effect around December as the DEA has dragged out the process. It's not instant executive order to reschedule. The law lays out a rather long process, but we're nearly at the end of it at this point