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[–] [email protected] 106 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

I love what Flatpak is doing for Linux desktop. Let it grow!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not the ideal solution, but it is approachable and understandable for technically averse users. I think it's good to have, but I only used it for one package, and that was as a separate Steam install that included an old version of glibc that was used in a particular game's (Squad) anti-cheat until it updated it.

It's good for a stable platform, but each package needs it's own set of everything, which can be good (like the Steam example above having its own version of glibc instead of using the shared version on my system), it's a lot of bloat. I'm not using it unless I require it for some reason, but again it's nice to have around.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I don’t think Flatpak is going to be compatible with Steam anyway in the long-term because layering container solutions doesn’t generally work very well, and Steam is going to want to use its own solution for better control over the libraries each game uses. Earlier versions used library redirection and some still do.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Great to see progress! Why is it behind their official github releases though? Latest version is 2024.10.2 and not 2024.09.0. It is four releases, meaning more than a month, behind.

[–] warmaster 27 points 2 weeks ago

Baby steps?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

It looks like they are working on fixing that with this pull request.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It’s the winapps author! By the way, winapps looks cool! I never was able to get it working though because I was using Wayland.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hah, yup, that's me, too. Sorry it didn't work out, a team have done some updates to it that may work now, unfortunately I've never been able to get a hold of them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Price of the centralization?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Funny thing, it repacks a deb package.
See manifest.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is the a downside to repacking the deb package? They're basically just zip files of the same binary you'd run on most other Linux distros.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't say that. Rather it's just a trivia.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Totally fair. I'm curious to see if anyone else may have reasons why it might be suboptimal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Reposting the link from another comment on here, there is a PR to build the flatpak from source https://github.com/flathub/com.bitwarden.desktop/pull/222

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why on Flathub it says that it "uses legacy windowing system", but there is granted permission to use Wayland socket in manifest?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably because there's also permission to use the X11 socket.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, its certainly not because of that.

Many apps have both permissions simultaneously and theres no warning. In this case X11 is used as a fallback if wayland is not used.

[–] tekato 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In this case X11 is used as a fallback if wayland is not used.

It prefers X11, and Wayland can be enabled through the ozone layer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, but why there's a warning on flathub that it uses legacy windowing system

[–] tekato 1 points 2 weeks ago

Because it will always use X11 unless you tell it not to.

[–] tomjuggler 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What does this desktop app do that the browser extension doesn't? I tried the cli extension but it was rubbish..

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The desktop app can be used as a bridge for biometrics in the browser extension, but other than that, it basically serves no unique purpose unless and until they add autofill for desktop applications.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I also would like to know what the desktop app is used for?

I've seen apps like xpipe that have direct Bitwarden integration if you want (way too high risk for me but I can see some people using it), but even then it integrates directly to the servers API. When I need an ssh password or something I copy and paste it from the browser extension. I'm curious if I'm missing some functionality by not using the app.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're not, it's just that sometimes you paste your passwords outside browser, and opening a browser for that is doable, but feels wrong :D

Also, the app has a more convenient layout as it can afford more screen space.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you not have the browser open all the time? Not necessarily in the foreground, but at least in the background I always have a browser window. But tbh, most of the time it's in the foreground on the second monitor

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I envy your life, as it feels like every year the browser assimilates and consumes more and more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] subtext 17 points 2 weeks ago

Huge news

Is it possible to get biometrics working on a flathub app?

[–] GreenEngineering3475 14 points 2 weeks ago

I fucking love Flathub(and flatpak too), also thank you to Bitwarden team♥️.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

What does bitwarden have over keepass?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

Sync that has never broken for me and works on a phone. My attempts at keypass with both google drive and syncthing invariably ended up with me needing to periodically do manual reconciliation. I’ve never had this problem with bitwarden. Also, bitwardens passkey hooks work on iOS. They appear unsupported by keepassium.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

Probably a bit more polished UX (especially for not too tech-savy people)

but I'd say the biggest difference is integrated multidevice support, either via their cloud or selfhosted...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I cannot access my homelab from my work network, so I cannot sync via Nextcloud. Syncthing would be better, but they just stopped supporting Android sync, which I need. Proton Drive doesn't sync files on Android. On top of that, I don't want to deal with sync issues because keepass isn't designed for syncing like that. I'm not gonna go back to using Google, Microsoft, or Dropbox just for keepass. I've considered just keeping my db file on a flash drive, but all of the keepass Android apps I tried won't automatically detect that the file exists when I plug in the drive.

If someone has a better way for me to use it, please enlighten me.

Bitwarden is slowly turning their stuff closed-source, and I hope they don't turn to shit, but right now it's what works.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Adding to what the other reply said, download the syncthing fork. The official app has been under maintenance mode for a while.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah, I guess I shouldn't have put that in this comment, I was just airing a tangential frustration. It still doesn't help me unless I set up a vps on a whitelisted domain at my work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Syncthing still supports Android, you can download the app via Fdroid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

But the last release for it will be in December.

There is the fork mentioned in the forum post here.

https://forum.syncthing.net/t/discontinuing-syncthing-android/23002

https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android

I don't use Syncthing and don't have an Android phone so I can't really speak for it in terms of functionality.

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