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Housing Bubble 2: Return of the Ugly

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[–] Lost_My_Mind 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know I should be empathetic, but it's Florida. It's the trump HQ of the world. These are the people who elected Bush, and Trump.

These are the people who support DeSantis. If we get a DeSantis presidential run in 2028, this is where it started.

These are the people who do bath salts for breakfast, and meth for lunch.

[–] WorkIsSlow 44 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I believe in leftist ideals like holding conservatives down and forcing them to take free healthcare and disaster relief.

Also not everybody who lives in Florida voted for Trump, but even the Trump supporters deserve relief despite the irony.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You're not wrong. You're just frustrating to agree with.

[–] WorkIsSlow 18 points 2 months ago

I get that a lot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

A true leftist 😅

[–] TK420 7 points 2 months ago

Trump supporters deserve thoughts and prayers. Sorry not sorry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

They should be on the front line pushing for the reduction of fossil fuels. Otherwise, as others have said, thOughtS AnD prAyErs

[–] acosmichippo 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So that's 10.5% of total claims, but the article doesn't do a good job explaining if this is an actual problem. they are just throwing numbers around without explaining why these claims are being denied except for suppositional statements like these:

Insurance claims can be denied for a number of reasons, including but not limited to insufficient information, missed premium payments, fraudulent claims, or missed filing deadlines. A closed claim without payment is a claim deemed not currently payable by the reporting insurer, FLOIR stipulates.

"There are a variety of reasons why a property insurance claim may be closed without payment," Mark Friedlander, director of corporate communications at the Insurance Information Institute, previously told Newsweek. "Most likely, these are primarily flood claims that are not covered by a standard property insurance, condo insurance or flood insurance policy. You need flood insurance to cover a flood claim."

[–] saltesc 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but it's easier to imagine a person getting $0 for their flattened house than it is someone trying to find things to blame on the hurricane for $$$.

[–] WorkIsSlow 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yeah it's definitely not that floods are a damaging consequence of hurricanes.

I can understand that flood damage isn't covered by those plans and still think that the consequences of for profit insurance are bullshit. People typically don't skip out on full coverage insurance as a get rich quick scheme. It tends to be a consequence of not being able to afford their inflated prices. Safety nets like insurance do not have room for corporate profits. As a result people suffer.

[–] saltesc 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I've had a similar situation where I live. However, the government forced insurance companies to cough up. I doubt America has such regulation over the services people pay for and "tough titties" is a profitable business model.

[–] WorkIsSlow 1 points 2 months ago

Tough titties is very profitable, but to maximize profits they cut out the part where they actually help people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I agree that insurance should not be a for-profit industry, but I am skeptical that the insurance is over-priced given the inevitability of the destruction of many of these properties. The actuarial risk is so high that many for-profit insurance companies are abandoning the market. If insurance is astronomically expensive, the area probably isn't habitable and should be abandoned. I think the best solution is relocation assistance rather than rebuilding.

Capitalists are going to buy these abandoned properties for pennies on the dollar and rebuild foolishly. Then they will be back looking for more handouts when the properties inevitably get destroyed again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Home insurance does not typically cover flooding. It's sold separately and typically will only cover up to $250k. So you had better hope your house gets blown over by the wind instead of getting flooded up to the roofline or you will not get enough money to rebuild your house.