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From a former pastor who knows what the insiders talk about: a warning we would be foolish to ignore.

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[–] lettruthout 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And they must lose in every election in the future. Look to California as an example - they haven't elected a Republican to state office since Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2006.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

California led the fight to criminalize homelessness just this last year.

[–] lettruthout 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's hardly a perfect system, but a lot of the craziness has been removed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

It is a liberal bastion during the slow breakdown of the federal ability to reign in self-defeating tendencies of capital. It is still a capitalist nightmare, itself.

[–] IndiBrony -1 points 2 months ago

Now I'm no Republican, I wasn't old enough to vote in 2006, and I'm not even American...but if I were: I'd vote Arnie in 👍

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

To third-party voters: I fully believe in votes of conscience and there will be plenty of time for you to create an alternative to the system we currently have in place—but now isn't that time. A protest vote now isn't a protest, it's reckless and wasteful and it will cost you any future opportunity you're hoping for. You will lose the voice you have.

[emphasis mine]

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

If my choices are "the end," "the end slightly delayed because we've no interest in preventing it," or "worse than the first guys because I didn't worship the duopoly" I've already lost my voice, havent I?

Democrats have shut off all paths to move them left, including having it ruled in court that the DNC can do whatever they want. Democrats spend more energy attacking leftists than they ever do Republicans.

If leftists are such a critical threat to Democrats they probably should have courted those voters instead of the cycle of telling them to eat shit for 3 years then spending a year blaming them for dem losses. 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you are voting for genocide with "lesser evil" logic then you have already lost any voice worth having.

There is a reason these cowards can't even describe the basic facts with explicit terms. They know what it means to say, "vote for a gemocider" so they hem and has and play with euphemisms.

But you don't need to be convinced by these shills. You can do better than support genocide.

[–] Tahl_eN 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even if I accept your framing that a vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide in Gaza, literally any other action is a vote for that genocide, plus one in Ukraine, plus one in the US. We know this because that's what Trump has said. We know this because that's what he tried to do the last time. And we will have this problem until Trumpism is soundly defeated. You want a real left choice sometime in your lifetime? We need to vote Dem hard enough to make it clear that Republicans can't win. We're not there yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

As a reminder:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The GOP needs to be dismantled.