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"It's not like the government is forcing you to buy a car!"

If you live in a city with parking minimums, yes they fucking are.

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[–] Voyajer 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Those lots are horribly inefficient, aisle-less parking would make more sense for businesses of that size

[–] FireRetardant 4 points 2 months ago

They may be horribly ineffecient but that seems to be the standard design. Plus compared to pretty much any other land use, even the most optimized surface level parking lot is an ineffecient use of land.

[–] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION 4 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I hate car dependence too but when I see things like this I wonder what your solution is for people like me who can't really walk much.

[–] eskimofry 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't see any comment asking to remove all cars from the roads. Only that viable alternatives to driving be made possible by sensible zoning instead of building everything solely to cater to cars.

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[–] FireRetardant 4 points 2 months ago

What would your solution for a blind peron be in this car dependant world? Having multiple transportation options is the most fair system. Right now in many places the car is the only option.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Would accessibility be a solution here? I am speaking about public transport that has dedicated spaces for wheelchairs, has ramps to get on and off etc., as well as sidewalks that are accesibil by wheelchairs, with a smith surface and ramps to get on and off to. Maybe combine that with lifts to access pedestrian subways and overbrides.

Possibly it could also mean the ability to rent, best case for free and at a place reachable by public transport with very little or no walking, a wheelchair or a simiiular solution that let's one drive rather then walk.

I'm just thinking loud, but maybe such solutions should be considered in every walkable city.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You're not wrong in the long term. But in the short term, people will park anywhere possible close to the shop, blocking everywhere near with cars.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

complete bullshit, but even IF drivers were so fucking brain dead, irresponsible, and incapable of being civil, the solution is not to cede to their entirely unreasonable demand that they be allowed to go to some of the most densest places on earth with a fucking couch 2 arm chairs, big chest for all their loot and a whole ass climate control system, if they cant behave they simply shouldn't have licenses.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Urban fabric is when everything’s a building, meaning you can’t go anywhere unless they’ve got the door open for you.

[–] TriflingToad 4 points 2 months ago

sorry what? I can't understand what you're trying to say about the door part

[–] FireRetardant 3 points 2 months ago

Are you proposing a society where we never leave our cars and every business is a drive thru? Even if you drive to a wal mart today, they still have to have the door open for you to shop there.

And our current urban fabric is everything is a road, you can't go anywhere unless you drive a car. Can't afford a car? Too young to drive? Have a health condition that prevents you from driving? Want to choose a car free life? Too bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

what the fuck were u even attempting to say

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