Mexico’s President Condemns Aggression on Gaza, Calls for Recognition of Palestine : worldnews

[–] TropicalDingdong 54 points 4 months ago

Hey real leadership

[–] Iheartcheese 43 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Your turn Biden

[–] GuyDudeman 29 points 4 months ago (3 children)

He'll never do it. Neither will Kamala. They get too much money from the Israeli lobby.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

lol @ America. Democracy? No. We let corporations and foreign leaders buy our elections.

But also: Democrats: “we need to save amerikkka 😭😭😭”

[–] GuyDudeman 11 points 4 months ago

Yeah, we’re constantly on the edge of allowing this place to fall into full on fascist dictatorship. It fucking sucks.

Laugh all you want. At least you live in a place where your government is not constantly teetering on the edge.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Have they been supported by AIPAC? Surely, but them personally getting a check from a foreign lobby that is mysteriously allowed to exist in US politics is not a good explanation for what is going on. Israel serves a purpose extending America's power in the Middle East and terrorizing its rivals. If Israel was against America's interests in the region, AIPAC wouldn't exist and America's lavish cooperation with Israel would not be happening.

[–] GuyDudeman 8 points 4 months ago

True. It’s all related to capitalism. But the campaign money is the real thing that keeps politicians (some of whom actually do care about doing the right thing), from doing the right thing.

[–] Iheartcheese 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do it on the way out the door erase all the senile old fuck news with ' I know I'm not supposed to say this but seriously fuck Israel' Biden said WHAT news

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Not sure why lemmy liberals are assuming Harris and Biden are secretly against Israel, it's going to be a big disappointment for you all if the Democrats win again and nothing changes.

[–] Disaster@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago

When you're voting in a one-party system with two right wings, nothing changing is the expected outsome.

[–] Aceticon 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's called Stockholm Syndrome: people without options often end up genuinelly believing that the guy who tortures them only twice a week rather than daily is "deep down a good guy" and even "is our friend".

[+] GuyDudeman -10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think Harris knows what’s up. But she also knows that she has to play the game.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/25/statement-by-vice-president-kamala-harris-3/

She "knows what's up," and has self-consciously chosen to side with genocide, branding all of its opponents terrorists or terrorist sympathizers.

[+] GuyDudeman -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

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[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dude, setting aside what we think of Hamas, I wasn't talking about Hamas, I was talking about people in America protesting against genocide being branded as terrorist sympathizers.

[–] GuyDudeman 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you not aware that the specific protestors she was responding to were actually flying Hamas flag and spray painting pro-Hamas messages on statues and things. It was bad.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Aside from the fact that she's clearly using it as an opportunity to make it look like the entire protest (and perhaps all pro-Palestine protest) took such a tact

pro-Hamas messages

If you mean "From the river to the sea" I swear to God

[–] GuyDudeman 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, I mean “Hamas is coming”…

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's interesting. I clearly hadn't been giving those protestors enough credit, but the corollary of that is that Kamala, while an absolute zionist bastard, was still generalizing but not nearly as aggressively as I thought (there are definitely a bunch of triangles). I underestimated the ability of westerners to cut through zionist concern-trolling, even if not all present can.

[–] GuyDudeman 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I'm understanding your meaning here.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I said "setting aside what we think of Hamas" for a reason, if that helps you interpret my meaning, I'm just doing a bad job managing both impulsively responding after the conversation ran its course and also avoiding getting into a useless dispute about the main force of military resistance to an ongoing genocide.

[–] GuyDudeman 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kamala herself doesn’t give a shit about Zionism except for what it provides to her campaign in the form of money.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

I find it unfathomable how someone can come to that of all conclusions. Obviously she doesn't have a commitment to it religiously or out of ethnic supremacy, but it's just as obvious that she's interested in being the slay kween on top of the bloodiest empire in history, and so she knows it behooves her to take care of all of its apparati for maintaining power.

When you're a top-level politician like Kamala is failing-up into being, Israel's appeal to you in not the chump change from AIPAC (not that you don't take that too), it's Israel's actual use, the reason that AIPAC is allowed to exist when virtually no other foreign lobby is, that being that it spreads chaos and destruction among America's enemies in the Middle East.

The idea that AIPAC effectively authored and single-handedly perpetuates zionism in the US political establishment is both antisemitic and just plain stupid. Where do you think they got the money from?! It didn't just spring from Palestinian blood or from being Jewish or whatever, that money comes from the US initially! Or by proxy from US resources. The money AIPAC has is circling back to the US like in a money-laundering scheme.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago

Biden is at the vanguard of this genocide and Kamala is at his side.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can't wait to see the media/israel try and label her an anti-semite.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 28 points 4 months ago

That asshat Netanyahu already condemned the UN as, and I'm paraphrasing "full of anti-Semites"

Seriously there is rot in the Israeli government and it is making Jews around the world more hated and less safe.

[–] Aceticon 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, but unlike Biden who is a Fascist-just-not-at-home-(yet), she's an actual Leftie, which comes with the whole "Nobody deserves to be murdered because of their race (even if they're non-White Muslims and the killers are White Jews)" mindset.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How is Mexico more progressive than the democratic nominee?

I thought Mexico was full of rapists that they’re sending over the border? Isn’t that why Kamala adopted Trump’s Hitlerian border policy?

There’s something fishy in the air…. Smells of Nazis….

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

She's jewish.

Jews are especially pissed at Israel right now. We were raised learning about the horrors of genocide, and told "never again". Anyone who takes that phrase seriously must speak out against the Genocide being committed in Gaza.

[–] TropicalDingdong 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At a certain point you gotta stop voting for the 'good cop' part of the ratchet effect.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

At a certain point, you gotta get a gun. 🫡

[+] TankHiggins1@lemm.ee -10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

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[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 16 points 4 months ago

Yeah, and Vietnam should've worked on rebuilding there country after the war instead of taking out polpot.

Genocidal regimes are a threat to all humanity and need to be fought against, especially when it's just a denouncement which costs nothing. It's not like they're sending billions to the area while the poor in their country go without food, like the u.s.

[+] Moxible@monyet.cc -12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

oh no the condemnation!

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago

Yes as in genocide is bad and should be opposed. Something that you would think would be the baseline but clearly is not among mainstream liberals.

[+] Live_Let_Live -13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

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[–] eskimofry 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Username doesn't checkout

[+] Nuke_the_whales -19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's easier to criticize other countries than it is to fix yours.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

USA sending an average of $5 billion in tax dollars and weapons per year for the last 75 years to Isreal instead of fixing the USA

Edit: 18 billion this year (2024) alone

[–] Nuke_the_whales 4 points 4 months ago

You guys been sending weapons and shit to the Saudis too, even after they murdered 2,000+ of your people on 9/11

[–] Adori 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Oh shes doing great, on track to hella improve the country. Tackling issues of infrastructure, security, healthcare and education. Gon build double the passanger rail built by the previous administration (promise of 3000km) connecting major cities to mexico city and up to Texas. Have great hopes for my presidenta, and shes doing great so far!

A mother, grandmother, and PHD in energy engineering while having had tutorage from the previous president who was loved by the people due to how much he reduced poverty for millions of Mexicans.

AAAH, too many words needed to express my excitement for my country.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

I'd rather have her as my president than Trump, that's for damn sure.

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