I’m not going back to Reddit. I like it better here. And are all 600k really people?
this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2023
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I was incredibly proud of the trek community for boldly going into the new frontier of the internet. Taking the entire subreddit for the ride could have really helped mass adoption of decentralized social networking. I expected the sub to reopen eventually, but I'm pretty disappointed by the reaction of those currently posting in that thread. If any fanbase should be willing to move forward with the times, we should.
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I wouldn't worry. It's not a foregone conclusion that this place is going to suffer and die because the subreddits opened back up.
It's going about as expected. Mastodon experienced many waves of new users coming in. A lot of them don't stay, but at lot do. I expect the same thing to happen here.
Unless I'm missing something, but creating an account on this website here was incredible easy.
@Nmyownworld, I’m still not able to reply to a reply with Mlem, I’d like to say the same - for me it’s been about trying to find a new place to have conversations in a board that’s diverse, well moderated and values keeping a balance of different perspectives that don’t shout down others.
Being in a conversation with hund of thousands isn’t my main goal. Being in a place where fans of diverse demographics and perspectives can respectfully interact is.
Us vs them, lack of openness to other perspectives seems to have always been where Star Trek fandom falls apart, going back to the early mimeod fanzines. I’m glad you flagged that in your comment.
I’ve been finding the conversations in the fandom increasingly challenging to join into, and had been wondering where I should continue to participate or not. (“The cancel this to give us that because all true fans want what I want!” demands in less well moderated social media have been accelerating.)
Star Trek wasn’t what drew me to Reddit as much as I have enjoyed the conversations there. I wonder where I will be able to have conversations about other hobbies or my local community. So, being motivated to join Lemmy and look around for those from a safe home base is a gift.
No worries. I don't even know what Mlem is, heh.
" “The cancel this to give us that because all true fans want what I want!” demands in less well moderated social media have been accelerating."
I've noticed that, too. It saddens me. Star Trek is diverse, in many ways. And, there's a lot of different Star Trek shows and movies around. Civil conversing seemed to be becoming a lost art. Hopefully, genuine conversating makes a return, without hyperbole ridden shout downs.
Whether the original subreddit is reopened or not, there are going to be plenty of people that don't want to go back to reddit, or never were over at reddit in the first place. It's possible this one will die off, but hopefully it won't and will stay its own thing, regardless of the status of the subreddit....
I'm sticking around here, but then I wasn't on /r/startrek to begin with
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As long as there's people contributing quality contents and discussions, this place won't die, although the culture will start diverging from the subreddits.
It's only been about a week. It'll take time to grow the community, and to find out if it's dead or not.
But for your part, posting frequently should help keep it alive until it gains more users.
"I see no incentive for people to come to this website now " Well, you are free from any more corporate BS here and back on Reddit you are in the same precarious situation that you were in before. If you go back, you will have to compromise.
I'm totally out of my element as far as this community goes and wondered in here from sorting by all, but I won't be going back to reddit for the reasons you said and then some.
It seems to me enough of the core/healthy users and mods have had enough that the site is going to devolve into a cesspool of hate, bots/spam, circlejerks, and more hate.
It's the core subreddit members who drive significant portions of content that are leaving. It's the users who actually go out of their way to report off-topic/rule-breaking content. The ones who always check for/report dropship scammers. These are the users getting fed up and leaving.
It's the unhealthy users who are going to stay. The kind of mindless drones who upvote content regardless of whether it's in the appropriate thread. I've witnessed an alarming trend over the years of anti-intellectualism and hypersensitivity mixed with aggression spreading on reddit. The site is already going down the drain.
Now the mods are about to lose most of their tools (from 3rd party apps of course!) and are being removed by the reddit admin to reopen subs. Many mods are maliciously noncomplying. Some talk about just not moderating their comunities at all anymore. When the mods leave in droves (which is already happening) is when we'll start to see reddit deteriorate more.
Reddit itself isn't going anywhere, and neither is most of their userbase. But their quality is going to plummet. Regardless, I'm happier here even if our communities are smaller for a while. That will just make them more close-knit.
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Give it time for sure, OP. I’m new :) I actually made an account 2 days ago, but it was bugging due to server load so I couldnt stay logged on.
Today though, I tried again and it works great, and I’m finding so far, it’s not as complicated as some redditors made it out to be. I think that was the reason for my hesitancy, so I think because of the cautions, people will be slower to try it out
I deleted my Reddit account during the blackout, so I had no idea the subs had reopened until I saw this post. I made the move for good - no going back. So hopefully there are enough folks here to keep things engaging! Judging by the three pages of comments on this post, I'd say there are!
I've been enjoying this site for the past 4 days. Only time will tell.
I think for now if people know about this and they’re fans because of the spirit of Trek, they’ll come here, and maybe both places. But if they’re a casual fan, they’ll likely stick with Reddit. What’s nice about all the drama is the awareness it brought to Lemmy and the Fediverse as a whole. At least more people know they have a choice.