this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2024
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Fire Memes for Traitor Haters

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Where we meme (joking in tone and detail, serious in sentiment) about General Sherman, the Civil War, and how the secesh traitors had it coming.

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  1. No bigotry. The Union, or at least the part of the Union WE support, fought AGAINST that shite. We are anti-racist, anti-sexist, anti-homophobic, anti-transphobic, and in general anti-bigot here, even if not all the lads in Union blue uniforms were.

  2. No Confederate sympathizing. Anti-democratic racist slaver traitors don't deserve shit.

  3. Follow all Lemmy.world rules

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[โ€“] thesporkeffect 51 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Those middle 2 flags are, purely from an aesthetic/design point of view, somewhere between amateur hour and war crime.

[โ€“] Benjaben 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I felt the same, just flat out terrible looking. Just completely foolish, juvenile.

But an almost instant second thought was about how impossible it'd be, in that time and place especially, to keep those big white...stretches...continuing to look anything close to white. Civil War being the messy thing it was, Confederacy in particular not exactly known for their sharp discipline and order, lol...

Bet those things* looked like total ass, flown.

Almost makes for a funny metaphor, somewhere. Can't quite get there myself, but something to do with their big, badly designed white spaces getting browner all the time ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

The flag of 'We drove a full cart of toilet paper in the March of 2020'.

[โ€“] dohpaz42 8 points 2 weeks ago

Imma go with lazy and talentless.

[โ€“] mkwt 4 points 2 weeks ago

And like the text says they really were useless in a practical sense because of the white surrender-and-truce flag tradition.

[โ€“] Zachariah 26 points 2 weeks ago

The Confederacy was, purely from an ethics/history point of view, somewhere between amateur hour and war crime.

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

CGPGrey has a video on this. He also points out the battle flag had a different color blue than the lags used today, so the Confederate flag everyone uses was never a flag if you include color accuracy.

[โ€“] saltesc 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Funnily enough, this flag ..

...is used by anti-government "cookers" and sovereign citizens.

Why? Dunno. It's for a ship registered as part of the Australian merchant navy. Cargo ships, cruise liners, etc.

[โ€“] PugJesus 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sovereign citizens have a weird obsession with archaic naval law (or their envisioning of it)

[โ€“] FireTower 5 points 2 weeks ago

Admiralty law, and it stems from it being one the few areas of jurisdictions covered by federal courts per Art 3 sec 2 of the US Constitution.

[โ€“] Donkter 9 points 2 weeks ago

Probably because sovereign citizens beliefs are defined by believing the very first piece of info they come across and then blocking out all other conflicting info for the rest of their life.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

A tear for the southern Cross!

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Oh man, all the history buffs in my neighborhood with this thing in their yard are going to be so dissapointed!

[โ€“] acosmichippo 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm don't think that last part is true. My understanding is the Battle Flag was actually popular during the civil war, that's why it was made part of the national flag design.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I'm don't think

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I linked it in another comment, but it depends on how pedantic you are. This video does agree the battle flag had growing popularity, but it isn't technically the same as the currently used Confederate flag (nor was the Navy Jack). The battle flag was more square and not as wide, the Navy Jack had a different blue.

Though if you say "close enough" I wouldn't fight it.

Edit on second read through, your statement was only on the battle flags popularity affecting the fi al design, which does make your statement correct.