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[–] MotoAsh 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Boeing deserves to die as the money grubbing losers they now are.

[–] mipadaitu 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yes, except that leaves us with one option for sending people into space again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean "again"? You mean still.

[–] mipadaitu 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When we had the shuttle. We decided we didn't want to be in that situation again, but we still are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Thats what i said.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

And one plane manufacturer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not really, Soyuz still exists. And it's not like Crew Dragon is unreliable or really all that bad.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Until Elon decides to use it as leverage to get something he wants.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I would hope Gwynne Shotwell + the U.S. government would be enough to prevent that from happening...

[–] reddig33 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Would splitting it into three separate companies make any difference? Like maybe at least one of the three would get its act together?

[–] MotoAsh 13 points 3 months ago

No not at all. It is not a macro problem of organization. It's a micro problem of rich executive fuckwits running the corpo instead of actual engineers.

You can dice it up how ever you want, but if vapid, money-grubbing piles of trash are at the top, it will ALWAYS fail.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

“Oh wow, no shit?”

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

No surprise here. The product does not operate as intended.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

NASA has only given Boeing the "Authority To Proceed" for three of its six potential operational Starliner missions. This milestone, known as ATP, is a decision point in contracting lingo where the customer—in this case, NASA—places a firm order for a deliverable. NASA has previously said it awards these task orders about two to three years prior to a mission's launch.

Josh Finch, a NASA spokesperson, told Ars that the agency hasn't made any decisions on whether to commit to any more operational Starliner missions from Boeing beyond the three already on the books.

So if Crew-4 through Crew-6 don't fly, then three Atlas Vs could be up for sale. Perhaps Boeing could use one for CFT-2, should NASA require it :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

first operational mission for August 2025. But the agency set that schedule before realizing Boeing and Aerojet Rocketdyne would need to redesign seals and perhaps other elements

Not sure this is correct. I had thought the slip from Feb 2025 to Aug 2025 was only announced quite recently. Say, a month ago?

(Not that I'm saying I think the Aug 2025 date will be achieved. I'm 75% sure it won't.)